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we're good now dragging the car
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you know those secrets that they say the
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secret machine can read everything all
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right we ready
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so Brian's going to give a talk about
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docsis now so so please welcome Brian
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and and here you go how's it going guys
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all right so my name is Brian Wilson I
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handled his slim jim 100 actually worked
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for this company but here on my own
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recognizance so the group I'm with is
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middle Georgia computer users group
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we're actually in the process of opening
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a hacker space here shortly and making
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is a not getting high I can hear me okay
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so I'm part of computer middle Georgia
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computer users group we're out of a
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middle Georgia probably best thing to
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say it's making area about 80 miles
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south of here here shortly we're going
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to be working right now on opening up a
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hacker space so the web address for that
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is techno dorg thank you and like i said
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uh we got that land party we're going to
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be hosting april second and third in
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macon so you know the website and go
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there and check it out the information
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on that so today I want to just go over
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some of the basics of what docsis
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protocol is and how it interacts with
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the seams yes so how many of you here
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have a cable modem at home just about
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everybody all right so a few of you
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probably have dsl and maybe some of you
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have fiber to the home hopefully
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nobody's in dial-up so doctors the
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protocol your cable modem uses to
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communicate over the radio frequency
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let's get back to the cable companies
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head in for them to provide the ISP
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services for you it's very need a
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high-level look at it so we're looking
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at now is we're looking at the cable
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broadband architecture and we're going
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to look at in a few different ways and
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there's gonna be some you know simpler
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ways then we get little more advanced
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looking at it but as you can see on the
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slides there you've got the Internet
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cloud over here then you have the
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service provider IP core network within
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that network that connects them into the
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sea mts came
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transmission system which is a big
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router and then from there it actually
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goes out over the optical plant
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eventually to call actual RF plant and
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if we're really lucky we'll get it to a
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drop and then we'll take it into your
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house from there it'll plug into your
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modem set-top box emta whatever services
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you subscribe to we're focusing on the
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cable modem here today and we're going
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to go over to how docsis works and how
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to interaction the CMT s and kind of go
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to the very basics has anybody heard of
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docsis before now okay if anybody has a
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question any point in time just know he
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asked if I was going to talk about cable
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modem and capping uncapping hacking or
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anything else like that no I won't talk
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about that because that's pretty much
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that to service so it's illegal probably
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not i can tell you i could probably tell
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you that anything you do in a docsis
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network because it's an RF signature can
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be tracked so as anonymous as you think
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you might be with the RF spectrum and
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information timing offset of the actual
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decibel level of your device I could
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probably track you down within 50 feet
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on the cable plant of where you're at so
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even if you were to clone somebody
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else's information and show up somewhere
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else in town and master it is them doing
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bad things we can still find out exactly
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where you're at and it's instantaneous
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we just have to do some basic formulas
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to figure out timing offset from fiber
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optic to co actual and then where the
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tap losses and I can usually get with it
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about 50 feet of where you're at and if
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that's in a building yeah yes I do yes
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ok so for Cisco Systems I'm a network
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consulting engineer title pretty much
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says it all I support major cable ISPs
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my side is a consultant is I could
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actually I don't even necessarily have
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to recommend cisco gear when the when
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the customer engages my team we are
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advocates of the customer so we are
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their consultant though we you know we
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do work for a vendor our job is to make
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sure their life is easier and they have
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the right solutions in their network not
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necessarily buying this or that but is
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this what you need and how is it BES
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implemented to your network to help you
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make money so what is docsis docsis is
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table of data over cable service
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interface specification it was created
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by cable labs cablelabs is a nonprofit
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research and design custodian dedicated
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to pursuing new cable technologies
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CableLabs was created by the cable
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companies they didn't want proprietary
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expensive gear that they couldn't get
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out of so they pulled together the big
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guys and they basically formed CableLabs
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a nonprofit organization then the
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vendors have to if they want to be
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docsis compliant they have to go in and
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work with cable apps to get their
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equipment certified once their equipment
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in your technology certified any member
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or vendor the alice is also in that the
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cable abs group has access to that
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information patent free so that keeps
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costs down and actually allows you to
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have a forty dollar modem which when you
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look at the chipset the information all
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the actual hardware that's in there if
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it was proprietary it probably would
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have cost about seven hundred bucks so
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with having CableLabs it keeps costs
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down and it keeps things open and it is
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an open standard with what they write a
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lot of stuff that probably wants you to
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become a member or sign into to get some
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of the information but if you're really
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interested in docsis and you want to
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know all the information about it
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bit-level the information is available
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out there so docsis defines the
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interface requirements for cable modems
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involved in high-speed data distribution
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over cable television system networks
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basically it makes your cable modem work
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so second ago we looked at a cable TV
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plant well now we're going to take them
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to the look at it and this time we're
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looking at in a little bigger view
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so they're okay my mouth shows up
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alright so here you would see like the
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intended would represent off air video
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transmissions local TV channels
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sometimes your your cable company may
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not have a direct fiber feed to get the
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video stream in so they may actually put
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up a set of bunny ears on a little tower
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out there and actually pull the signal
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in that way to inject it into the
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channel lineup they're also going to be
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pulling out services off of large-scale
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satellites and those are going to be
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services your HBO ESPN CN you know all
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this all the services they offer you
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they're not locally made there from all
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over the place there other you know
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other broadcasters and they're going to
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collect those off the satellite once
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they get those they're going to bring
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them in through fiber and eventually go
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into what's called a head in the local
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headed is where all the equipment is
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that's where the channel lineups at
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that's really why you're combining
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that's where your transmitters your
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optical transmitters are because for the
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cable company to provide services see
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you in the modern day environment they
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actually send all the information down
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fiber all the way up into your
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neighborhood into what's called a node
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the node if transfers the optical signal
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back into an RF technology and that's
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usually between 5 and 11 megahertz and
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our gigahertz so within this diagram
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here we use to the local head in you see
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the symbol for a router you've got
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receivers modulator scramblers hfc
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interface which is hybrid Co actual
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fiber you've got the local head in and
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then from there you go to downstream and
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upstream in this case they're doing
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actual these are going to be separate
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optical fiber paths once you get from
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the optical fiber paps you eventually
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get to the dark blue line here and that
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would be the hardline coax thats hanging
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on the telephone pole not the skinny
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stuff in your house with a much more
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robust aluminum fed eventually that gets
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broken down through amps and line
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extenders it gets stuck to the side of
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your house at the audit box and then
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from there it goes in the rg59 cable you
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know that you have your walls down yet
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again another demonstration of the same
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basic diagram and a different format and
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what we're trying to pretty much
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represent here is you see the head and
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you also have what's called
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sites so that's going to be another site
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similar to the head in that maybe closer
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geographically to where the customers
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are going to be serviced and then the
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signals may actually leave their
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optically before they going before going
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to coax and then these little things
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here no these are actually fibers strand
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about the size of a shoebox their pole
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mounted or their pedestals on the ground
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and you know that's that's we get that
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and then awesome the outside cable plant
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you're going to have power supplies
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every so often so it's going to be a big
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box of hanging up on the telephone pole
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or in a pedestal aground when they myth
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inside those there's car batteries and
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that's they get local power from the
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power company but they have a battery
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backup in the event local powers lost so
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even when the power goes out nine times
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out of ten your cable TV is not down you
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just can't turn your TV on so if you
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have MTA voice services to your cable
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provider so if you have a voice enabled
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cable modem a lot of those will have a
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battery backup in it reason being is
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just because the power went out it
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doesn't mean the cable TV networks down
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you can still make phone calls most
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models of the emta devices will shut off
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the ethernet port so you kind of backup
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you get to your laptop running and the
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reason they do that is the battery can
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only sustain the devices for so long and
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keeping the ethernet port and the rj11
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ports all at the same time with drain
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batteries and necessarily the idea
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behind the battery backup is to keep the
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phone service up nigga you have an
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emergency or that your alarm system
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still needs to call out good
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it could be or could be the simple fact
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that there could be signal loss or an
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active component failure so when you
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have the power loss it actually could be
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you know catastrophic so yeah an
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amplifier goes down you x edit n you're
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going to lose it cuz you're going to
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take a large DB attenuation there the
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only other thing to point out here real
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quick would be there's a slow error here
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this is downstream this is the frequency
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base you're actually going to receive
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from the cable company directly to your
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house 88 to 880 megahertz or actually
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you could even go up to 1 gigahertz so
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that is also referred to from the RF
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guys as the forward path that is the RF
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frequency coming coming from the cable
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provider to you well that'd be kind of
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useless to have one way communications I
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mean if all you could ever do is listen
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and you can never respond well then you
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really don't have communications it's
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more like a radio talk show so to
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provide services like pay-per-view video
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on demand data voice stuff like that you
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got to have a path coming back the early
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days actually did telco return where you
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actually still had to help to a
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telephone line and basically what it was
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is you received your download over the
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cable modem and then your upstream
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traffic back was actually over an analog
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modem which is called telco return weird
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actually dialed a modem you know modem
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back to get the upstream back typically
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people people like why isn't symmetrical
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eyes the service not symmetrical well
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I've just point out the downstream
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there's another little area here you see
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where says upstream that's only five to
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forty two megahertz you see there's a
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big difference in the frequency base
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between the downstream and upstream with
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that being is the upstream is extremely
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limited now there's not a lot of devices
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that need to talk back so you have your
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cable modems you may have proprietary
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phone systems devices you may have the
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set-top boxes that need to have
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transmitted back pay per view
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information or channel lineup in
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information it's really cool that you
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can call your cable company and change
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your service and the Box magically gives
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you those channels I mean nobody likes
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to wait for somebody to come to your
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house to fix the service or add
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something so with the two-way
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communications it's not just convenient
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for the cable or the cable company
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themselves but it's also community for
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the customers I'm pretty sure most you
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can read so I'm not going to bore you
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with reading but your cable your cable
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is going to come over your cable TV
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services coming over 75 ohm coaxial
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cable usually RJ 59 sometimes rg11 six
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again kind of how I explained it back in
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the old days and when cable TV was
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considered community antenna it was one
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unit you know unidirectional one way to
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data path they provided you pictures
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they sent the information to you you
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never talk back more recent networks now
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is the hfc design where it's actually
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five are up too close to the
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neighborhood and at that point you have
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two optical paths one forward and one
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return where you can actually transmit
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data back and your Ford is considered
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your downstream and your return is
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considered your upstream so you're
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combining so what you have here is in
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North America we use what's called mxb
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okay there's actually two annexes
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there's an annex a and annex B for your
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frequency allocation so with amex be in
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North America it's actually six
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megahertz block is considered a channel
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in Europe and and it's a countries it's
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eight megahertz so it's a slightly
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larger and it's the same thing with with
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with euro and everything else with the
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t1 vs e when they always wanted a little
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bit better so good for them but most of
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equipment out there is going to be
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suited for docsis there is two flavors
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docsis docsis and euro docsis and there
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is one little additional docs tether
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called j docsis for japan the only
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difference between doctors and j docsis
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is they actually give you the ability to
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have a slightly larger upstream
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frequency base so in North America we
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have five to forty two megahertz and
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Japan it's five to six five to sixty
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five and then Europe at salsa five to
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sixty five but the J docsis doesn't use
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annex annex a they use annex b six
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megahertz on their downstream channels
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so if you have if you have that
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frequency base that you know 88 to 880
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if you're actually inserting media or
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MPEG frames in there and you were doing
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it in six megahertz blocks you got to
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make sure you only put one service there
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video whatever it is right either one TV
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channel an HD channel one docsis carrier
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depending on what your injected but you
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can't inject two carriers in the same
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exact frequency on you know at the same
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at the same channel with because you're
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just going to get garbage they're going
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to basically right on top of each other
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and it's going to be noise so you do
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have to make sure you properly place and
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map out your channel lineup and then on
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top of that wherever you have you know
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get six megahertz space in there you can
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allocate that to a docsis carrier the
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cisco 7246 are 7200 series you be our
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universal broadband router or uber is
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the one of the product family lines that
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cisco uses motorola uses a device called
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a BSR eres uses one called a c4 or c 3
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and then a dc-dc big man used to have a
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device called a CUDA but they went under
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and stop making it and then Terry on had
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12 called a blue wave and they went
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under and motor all about them so in the
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CMT s market for vendors that actually
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can sell the equipment to make the cable
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modems work you really only have like
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three vendors to go with motorola cisco
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and errors cisco has the largest largest
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market share there's pros and cons of
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each you know each vintage hardware
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upstairs in our room at in 226 I
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actually have a 7246 vxr router up there
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with a six foot cable plant bailed out
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with Kevin modems actively online after
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this talk and later this evening
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probably after six ish if you want to
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come up to 226 just knock on the door
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and if you actually want to come in and
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jump on the CLI you know we've got three
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hundred thousand dollars in equipment
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sitting up there you play with good
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we're probably going to have the
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security thing with the door just pried
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open but you can find myself Brian you
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can find DJ you can't miss Jason he's a
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little guy you've got bliss and Troy
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back there sitting side by side so any
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of these guys here are part of the
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middle tour the computer users group
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what's that well the door is locked and
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you know this this device is not light
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you can ask DJ because his backs better
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than mine I just don't see anybody
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really trying to get out the building
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with that plus it's all serial number de
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trackable so no we're getting ready to
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go into that and if you want to see it
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real time like I said we've actually set
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up a six foot plant up in the room I was
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going to try to bring it down here than
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I talked to Scott and Scott said I'm
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gonna have lots of stuff on the table
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it's going to take me probably 20
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minutes to get it all up and I was like
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well yeah and I really don't to carry
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that router down so we got the router
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actually set up set up live ready to go
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up in the room I think we have like
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seven or eight modems on it we could
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even add more I only had I only profit
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16 way splitter so I only can actually a
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lot so much so many devices plug to it
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so this device here if it's the 7246 vxr
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and i'm not trying to say anything I
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don't really care I don't think any of
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you could afford it or have a need to
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buy this equipment so I'm just putting
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the technology this device here is not
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end of life it has been around for like
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12 years but just recently they've come
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out with a newer line card for this one
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and a newer processor so it will be able
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to do docsis three auto so some of you
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probably heard the terminology docsis 30
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you're like wow that's going to be great
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well each version of docs this has to be
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backwards compatible through CableLabs
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so docsis 10 there is no quality of
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service best ever date of law docsis 11
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actually added costs and the ability it
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is to kill out different kinds of
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service flows into dynamic service flows
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docsis 20 the only thing that did was
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actually increase the modulation in
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types of statistical multiplexing you
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can do in the
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On the return plant or the upstream to
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allow higher data throughput on the
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upstream it didn't change how fast you
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could download that was the same as
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docsis 11 and then docsis 30 we've in
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essence basically giving you the ability
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to bond multiple downstream frequency
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channels so where you had one downstream
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in the past we've actually about allowed
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you to think of it as ready to stripe
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that across so we're you had one
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downstream now you could technically
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like eight and we had one upstream you
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could actually bond for and we're just
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basically using package with packet
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sequence numbers to recombine it back to
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you there is some other things like IP
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version 6 and docsis 30 advanced multi
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casting 256 aes encryption built into
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the device to protect your data stuff
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like that but the biggest motivator for
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docsis 30 is one defender fios
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fiber-to-the-home to provide faster
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speeds with I mean there's always
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politics behind everything and with you
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know the new administration saying
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they're going to put money and getting
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broadband everybody which has been said
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before it does give the msos or cable
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companies a little motivation to go out
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there and start upgrading some this
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equipment it is not cheap or easy to do
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this it's not like flipping a switch or
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buying a new box because you're older
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devices they have to be backwards
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compatible if you still have docsis 10
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devices on your plant you can't turn on
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all the features for docsis 30 without
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making those things brick and the
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average cost to rolla truck to
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somebody's house is 100 bucks because
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you got insurance the employee all kinds
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of stuff the vehicle so if it cuz if
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you've got 30,000 devices on your
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network of small network actually that's
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a very small Network and 10,000 or
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docsis 10 devices out there still you're
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going to have to find a way to get those
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off the plant and if they are leased to
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the customer okay it's your
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responsibility you can probably roll a
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truck but if the customer owns they may
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not want to upgrade so unless you're
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giving them a modem free so now you're
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not only you're paying a hundred ah
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leurs roll the truck you're actually
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spending another hundred dollars in
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hardware and they're paying thirty five
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dollars a month so there are some
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roadblocks that are all technical some
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are some are technical some are
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financial and it isn't necessarily about
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the equipment it's just about the fact
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that this stuff is backwards
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paddle for a good reason but it can
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limit so if it's a green field
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deployment and it's a brand new place
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and you're just lighting it up you're
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good to go of course if that's also the
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situation you may go with wimax or
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something wireless or you may just run
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fiber to everybody's house so there's
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pros and cons their thing and there's
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00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:05,740
multiple technologies and some customers
544
00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,418
i support actually own the telephone
545
00:22:05,740 --> 00:22:08,559
company they actually have fiber all the
546
00:22:07,419 --> 00:22:10,210
way up to like the edge of the
547
00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:11,470
neighborhood and they have a cable plant
548
00:22:10,210 --> 00:22:12,610
and they're trying to figure out how
549
00:22:11,470 --> 00:22:13,690
they get most bang for the buck and a
550
00:22:12,610 --> 00:22:16,240
lot nine times out of ten they're going
551
00:22:13,690 --> 00:22:18,429
with docsis the simple fact is is
552
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:22,659
there's a lot of research there and it's
553
00:22:18,429 --> 00:22:24,309
a very strong protocol well doctors has
554
00:22:22,659 --> 00:22:28,769
a protocol so I don't really know what a
555
00:22:24,309 --> 00:22:31,120
competitor would be no there used to be
556
00:22:28,769 --> 00:22:33,039
there used to be very close standards
557
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:35,080
and there was there was no necessarily
558
00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:36,490
docsis at the time so the original cable
559
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,928
one was like the old shark fin is and
560
00:22:36,490 --> 00:22:39,309
the original stuff out there that was
561
00:22:37,929 --> 00:22:41,529
proprietary so not only did you have to
562
00:22:39,309 --> 00:22:43,600
buy this vendors hardware yet by this
563
00:22:41,529 --> 00:22:47,649
manners modem which makes it very
564
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:49,269
expensive so this is going to go through
565
00:22:47,649 --> 00:22:50,799
and again I'm not going to read it
566
00:22:49,269 --> 00:22:52,539
verbatim for you but this is
567
00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:56,529
representing what's called a 1 by 6 line
568
00:22:52,539 --> 00:22:58,750
card one downstream sticks up streams so
569
00:22:56,529 --> 00:23:01,690
remember the downstream is from the
570
00:22:58,750 --> 00:23:03,549
cable company out to the customer the
571
00:23:01,690 --> 00:23:05,519
upstream would be the return path so on
572
00:23:03,549 --> 00:23:09,519
the downstream I only have one port
573
00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:12,190
remember I have a 88 to 880 or 1
574
00:23:09,519 --> 00:23:14,590
gigahertz range on that downstream at
575
00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:16,029
six megahertz wide and I'm suiting that
576
00:23:14,590 --> 00:23:17,019
down that's actually going just like one
577
00:23:16,029 --> 00:23:18,100
little neighborhood area and that's
578
00:23:17,019 --> 00:23:19,960
that's the downstream that's your
579
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:21,250
download now if you need to talk back to
580
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:26,259
the cmds you're gonna have to come up
581
00:23:21,250 --> 00:23:28,960
over an upstream port so on the upstream
582
00:23:26,259 --> 00:23:30,370
side you can actually it makes sense to
583
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,429
have multiple upstream supporting a
584
00:23:30,370 --> 00:23:35,049
single downstream and since this is an
585
00:23:33,429 --> 00:23:36,100
older lying card this is I think this
586
00:23:35,049 --> 00:23:38,019
extra line car we're looking at right
587
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:41,439
now is into life's this slide decks kind
588
00:23:38,019 --> 00:23:42,700
of old but they cover some of the real
589
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,740
good basic stuff I didn't want to come
590
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:46,720
in here like doctors 30 and talk about
591
00:23:44,740 --> 00:23:48,549
like MDD messaging and you're like huh I
592
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,110
want to try to keep it basic and keep
593
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:52,330
you guys in the same note we can go a
594
00:23:50,110 --> 00:23:53,709
lot deeper later but basically in most
595
00:23:52,330 --> 00:23:55,210
cases you're going to have one
596
00:23:53,710 --> 00:23:57,639
downstream and possibly multiple up
597
00:23:55,210 --> 00:23:59,529
streams now the device is using the up
598
00:23:57,639 --> 00:23:59,979
streams it'll be multiple devices but
599
00:23:59,529 --> 00:24:03,160
one
600
00:23:59,980 --> 00:24:05,200
you know one device mean if it's docsis
601
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,820
if it's less than oxes 30 cannot use
602
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,799
multiple extremes by itself so one modem
603
00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:10,450
may not won't be talking on to upstream
604
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:12,580
frequencies though there may be two
605
00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:15,640
upstream frequencies available to it
606
00:24:12,580 --> 00:24:17,620
it'll pick one and then as utilization
607
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,880
and network connectivity pick up it can
608
00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:20,500
load balance between them and move the
609
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,929
guy over to this one or over to that one
610
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:24,400
and you can actually have multiple down
611
00:24:22,929 --> 00:24:27,910
streets to and do load balancing across
612
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:30,280
down streams in the same fashion one
613
00:24:27,910 --> 00:24:31,540
thing to point out the little device
614
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,610
down below this you see from the
615
00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:35,830
downstream they got this here then they
616
00:24:33,610 --> 00:24:37,870
got an attenuator and then they got this
617
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:40,570
little device called up converter so
618
00:24:37,870 --> 00:24:42,040
originally the downstream just like in
619
00:24:40,570 --> 00:24:44,909
the TV network when you got a channel
620
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:47,590
prophet satellite receiver the output
621
00:24:44,910 --> 00:24:50,530
was what's called if' intermediate
622
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:53,350
frequency that is at 44 megahertz
623
00:24:50,530 --> 00:24:55,720
thinner frequency the end not modifiable
624
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:57,969
that's what if' is so if everything came
625
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,460
out at I F at 44 megahertz well I can't
626
00:24:57,970 --> 00:25:01,419
really do everything there that's where
627
00:25:00,460 --> 00:25:03,220
you get the up converter where it takes
628
00:25:01,419 --> 00:25:04,630
the I FN and then turns around and in
629
00:25:03,220 --> 00:25:07,059
the upconvert of your program what
630
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:08,799
downstream frequency or channel you want
631
00:25:07,059 --> 00:25:11,590
to provide that service on and that
632
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:13,840
helps you build your channel lineup all
633
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:15,459
of the newer cards that are for the
634
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,379
different types of cmcs is out there
635
00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:18,610
with all different vendors now have
636
00:25:17,380 --> 00:25:19,720
built-in up converter so you don't have
637
00:25:18,610 --> 00:25:23,459
to have a separate piece of equipment
638
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:27,220
the device I have upstairs in our room
639
00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:28,809
has three 1 by 6 cards in a 2 by 8 card
640
00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:29,980
the to buy a card has a built-in up
641
00:25:28,809 --> 00:25:31,600
converter so we have one less piece of
642
00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:34,600
equipment so that's the one we hook in
643
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:38,110
the motives to right now but just a
644
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,790
little side note so 44 megahertz is what
645
00:25:38,110 --> 00:25:46,870
is called a intermediate frequency in
646
00:25:39,790 --> 00:25:48,220
the cable world so our upstream again I
647
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:51,719
was explaining earlier our upstream
648
00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:51,720
ranges from five to forty two megahertz
649
00:25:52,620 --> 00:25:56,409
typically that's pretty low that's
650
00:25:54,669 --> 00:25:57,730
pretty far below the lowest downstream
651
00:25:56,410 --> 00:26:02,049
TV frequency which would be sitting
652
00:25:57,730 --> 00:26:03,760
about eighty eight megahertz and kind of
653
00:26:02,049 --> 00:26:06,490
a sidebar real quick as I was talking
654
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,200
earlier about channel lineups so 16
655
00:26:06,490 --> 00:26:10,360
megahertz slot in the downstream for a
656
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,669
TV channel well that's what you need for
657
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:13,810
one analog TV channel but if you're
658
00:26:12,669 --> 00:26:15,370
doing digital I
659
00:26:13,810 --> 00:26:18,639
actually fit 10 digital channels in that
660
00:26:15,370 --> 00:26:20,679
six megahertz block if you don't HD I
661
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,690
could probably put three HD channels in
662
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,610
that six megahertz space but if you're
663
00:26:22,690 --> 00:26:25,870
doing analog is extremely wasteful and
664
00:26:24,610 --> 00:26:28,330
it takes that whole six megahertz
665
00:26:25,870 --> 00:26:31,260
carrier that's another reason the FCC is
666
00:26:28,330 --> 00:26:34,419
pushing to get rid of analog TV because
667
00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:37,600
from 88 to 500 megahertz is the analog
668
00:26:34,420 --> 00:26:40,840
range and that's basically wasted
669
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:43,600
bandwidth so where I could have put only
670
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,760
one one one carrier 11 television
671
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,169
carrier for six megahertz if I can get
672
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,890
rid of the requirement to carry the
673
00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:53,020
analog i can now stack 10 digital
674
00:26:50,890 --> 00:26:54,940
channels and possibly 15 of giving
675
00:26:53,020 --> 00:26:57,700
depending on compression in each one of
676
00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:59,620
those slots and then i can stack
677
00:26:57,700 --> 00:27:02,260
anywhere from two to four HD channels
678
00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:06,729
per six megahertz block so again analogs
679
00:27:02,260 --> 00:27:08,530
extremely wasteful cable modems these
680
00:27:06,730 --> 00:27:11,080
are some older pictures to modem devices
681
00:27:08,530 --> 00:27:12,100
but basically I think we all understand
682
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,689
kind of what a capable de ms they
683
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:15,070
usually have two data interfaces at
684
00:27:13,690 --> 00:27:18,520
least classically they did they had a
685
00:27:15,070 --> 00:27:20,530
USB port and even a jack for the
686
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,930
customer and then an f connector or
687
00:27:20,530 --> 00:27:25,960
coaxial input for the cable companies
688
00:27:22,930 --> 00:27:27,340
feed any of your newer capable devices
689
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,650
you're probably not going to see the USB
690
00:27:27,340 --> 00:27:31,419
port on anymore one I think it was
691
00:27:29,650 --> 00:27:33,730
limited about 11 megabit per second
692
00:27:31,420 --> 00:27:35,800
actual throughput and to nobody used it
693
00:27:33,730 --> 00:27:36,700
is this an expensive additional port you
694
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,490
have to put in a piece equipment that
695
00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:40,840
almost nobody uses so most of the newer
696
00:27:39,490 --> 00:27:46,650
cable modems out there from all the
697
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:46,649
vendors have taken off the USB port so
698
00:27:47,250 --> 00:27:52,540
there's an error so cisco linksys which
699
00:27:50,170 --> 00:27:56,650
is also cisco and a motorola in the
700
00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:58,810
picture below so keep them on an
701
00:27:56,650 --> 00:28:00,250
upstream and downstream I kind of beaten
702
00:27:58,810 --> 00:28:03,070
this already so I'm just going to touch
703
00:28:00,250 --> 00:28:05,200
it real quick the downstream 88 to 880
704
00:28:03,070 --> 00:28:07,300
or possibly one gigahertz very large
705
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,730
pipe lots of places you could put
706
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:11,350
doctors carriers the upstream five to
707
00:28:09,730 --> 00:28:13,480
forty two megahertz not a lot of places
708
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:15,719
to do data not a lot of frequency base
709
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,800
there are a spectrum where we could use
710
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,180
that's another reason why you don't have
711
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,919
symmetrical services that's why you
712
00:28:19,180 --> 00:28:23,850
could get a lot of times Jephson like 10
713
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,850
down and like one up
714
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,659
sure doc says 30 has increased the
715
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,670
upstream to 65 megahertz the only
716
00:28:28,660 --> 00:28:32,920
problem is the cable TV plant has stuff
717
00:28:30,670 --> 00:28:35,590
called roll-off filters and die flex
718
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,020
filters and those actually cut the
719
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:40,270
signal off at about 42 megahertz so for
720
00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:41,920
them to provide a bigger upstream they
721
00:28:40,270 --> 00:28:44,020
got to go out and replace every active
722
00:28:41,920 --> 00:29:00,010
and passive device on the telephone
723
00:28:44,020 --> 00:29:01,510
poles not really remember internet and
724
00:29:00,010 --> 00:29:04,030
data is something that's actually pretty
725
00:29:01,510 --> 00:29:05,950
modern cable TV has been around before
726
00:29:04,030 --> 00:29:07,480
the internet nobody was using that
727
00:29:05,950 --> 00:29:09,429
frequency base it's actually a really
728
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,260
bad place try to suit you to actually
729
00:29:09,429 --> 00:29:13,240
probably do data communications it's
730
00:29:11,260 --> 00:29:16,809
very noisy does anybody know the
731
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,920
frequency of citizen band radio 27
732
00:29:16,809 --> 00:29:19,809
megahertz that's right in the middle of
733
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,670
that carrier so if anywhere in your
734
00:29:19,809 --> 00:29:22,960
cable plant there's a loose fitting a
735
00:29:21,670 --> 00:29:25,330
squirrel cheat on the hardline feeder
736
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,190
somebody got a cheap radioshack twist on
737
00:29:25,330 --> 00:29:28,510
connector something like that you
738
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:30,610
actually can take what's called ingress
739
00:29:28,510 --> 00:29:33,100
an injection or have suck out of the RF
740
00:29:30,610 --> 00:29:34,330
at 27 megahertz so I can't put a docsis
741
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,649
carrier there now because there's too
742
00:29:34,330 --> 00:29:39,399
much noise there won't transmit right
743
00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:42,580
theres also 6 meter 5 meter ham that can
744
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:45,059
interfere remote stroll Tilo kids remote
745
00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:47,830
control RC cars that's a 2742 megahertz
746
00:29:45,059 --> 00:29:49,690
so there's a lot of characteristics that
747
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:53,020
people don't really think about but your
748
00:29:49,690 --> 00:29:55,000
RF plant in the field is like a living
749
00:29:53,020 --> 00:29:57,309
creature it's constantly changing it's
750
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,170
constantly affected your decibel levels
751
00:29:57,309 --> 00:30:00,910
in the morning and the evening are going
752
00:29:59,170 --> 00:30:04,179
to fluctuate because what happens when
753
00:30:00,910 --> 00:30:05,770
metal when it gets hot it expands the
754
00:30:04,179 --> 00:30:10,120
distance between the two devices have
755
00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:11,800
now actually changed so there's a lot
756
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,550
more to it than just the extreme basics
757
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:17,830
and if you really want to get deeper in
758
00:30:15,550 --> 00:30:19,120
RF like I said take up with me but you
759
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:22,620
can spend your whole career just try to
760
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:25,239
understand the characteristics of signal
761
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:27,070
so it's best just to get a good grasp we
762
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,710
have a good understanding of the basics
763
00:30:27,070 --> 00:30:31,600
of how it works and then try to continue
764
00:30:29,710 --> 00:30:32,360
to build on and not try to dwell too
765
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,219
long in one area
766
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,928
because none of this none of us can be
767
00:30:34,220 --> 00:30:38,210
like know-it-alls and everything we can
768
00:30:35,929 --> 00:30:40,010
be good at something we be okayed a lot
769
00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:41,420
of things but you know there's no way
770
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:42,350
and there's a lot of stuff I don't know
771
00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:44,660
if I don't know what I'm gonna tell you
772
00:30:42,350 --> 00:30:48,530
don't know but I'll probably have to
773
00:30:44,660 --> 00:30:50,900
look it up for you so we're looking at
774
00:30:48,530 --> 00:30:52,070
the downstream there's something else up
775
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:53,179
to us so I told you the channel with six
776
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:55,100
megahertz there's one thing I didn't
777
00:30:53,179 --> 00:30:57,620
tell you yet and is the modulation
778
00:30:55,100 --> 00:31:00,949
scheme so how are we modulating the
779
00:30:57,620 --> 00:31:03,678
signal well currently you have about two
780
00:31:00,950 --> 00:31:07,429
choices for modulation 64 qualms or 256
781
00:31:03,679 --> 00:31:09,380
qualms so the raw throughput of a 64
782
00:31:07,429 --> 00:31:13,160
quam carrier the six megahertz wide is
783
00:31:09,380 --> 00:31:15,650
about 27 megabits per second for data
784
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:19,370
traffic a 256 quam carrier will give you
785
00:31:15,650 --> 00:31:21,320
about 38 megabits per second the other
786
00:31:19,370 --> 00:31:22,850
two fields over here where it's talking
787
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,460
about required a minimum CNR that's
788
00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:27,350
actually carried a noise ratio it's not
789
00:31:25,460 --> 00:31:28,669
the same thing as signal-to-noise ratio
790
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:31,418
there are actually two different
791
00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:35,510
measurements that people mix them up on
792
00:31:31,419 --> 00:31:36,740
the upstream side and again we I'm not
793
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:38,270
going to sit there and read verbatim
794
00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:40,640
every part of this life is well run out
795
00:31:38,270 --> 00:31:42,470
of time this is normally like I cut a
796
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,059
150 slides out of this so there's only
797
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:45,590
70 here so it's not too bad and we
798
00:31:44,059 --> 00:31:47,600
probably won't cover all that but
799
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:50,030
normally the basics class would take a
800
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,799
week to go into with labs to kind of
801
00:31:50,030 --> 00:31:53,360
cover some of this but on the upstream
802
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,340
side we actually have different channel
803
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,750
waves we can use so on the downstream
804
00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:58,399
we're locked in its debt at six
805
00:31:56,750 --> 00:32:00,799
megahertz and x ir b because those are
806
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,840
TV that's that's what the TV industry
807
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,610
did way back when and the FCC gave them
808
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,309
that's how they were a lot and how to
809
00:32:04,610 --> 00:32:09,020
give out spectrum well on the upstream
810
00:32:07,309 --> 00:32:11,870
side that's more recent that's for like
811
00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:13,490
pay-per-view for the internet stuff so
812
00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:15,830
it was a little more flexible with that
813
00:32:13,490 --> 00:32:16,940
well you actually have different channel
814
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:19,580
whips you can select when you're
815
00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:22,190
configuring the router you can do 200
816
00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:25,280
kilohertz 400 kilo hertz 800 1.6
817
00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:27,590
megahertz 3.2 mega hertz or if your
818
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,168
plant is pure docsis to or better you
819
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:32,168
can actually even do a 6.4 wide
820
00:32:29,169 --> 00:32:36,169
megahertz carrier on the upstream and
821
00:32:32,169 --> 00:32:39,590
then down below there again is also
822
00:32:36,169 --> 00:32:42,980
different kinds of modulation you have
823
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:44,600
that you have qpsk which is robust and
824
00:32:42,980 --> 00:32:47,810
can handle noise but doesn't provide
825
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:51,409
a lot of throughput you have 16 qualms
826
00:32:47,810 --> 00:32:56,659
which docsis 10 11 20 and 30 are all
827
00:32:51,410 --> 00:32:58,160
able to use and 16 qualm is not as is a
828
00:32:56,660 --> 00:33:00,260
little more susceptible to noise but
829
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,670
gives you more throughput so if your
830
00:33:00,260 --> 00:33:02,840
maintenance guys out there those bucket
831
00:33:01,670 --> 00:33:05,360
trucks aren't tightening it up and
832
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,620
fixing that plant daily you're going to
833
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,500
have a harder time running 16 quam
834
00:33:06,620 --> 00:33:11,209
without taking a higher bit error rate
835
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:13,250
or modular modulation error rate
836
00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:15,890
depending on where that you know where
837
00:33:13,250 --> 00:33:18,140
the failure is you may only be able to
838
00:33:15,890 --> 00:33:20,120
do qpsk because it's much more robust
839
00:33:18,140 --> 00:33:22,370
and basically just think of it as error
840
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,929
checking if I take one error i can
841
00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:25,760
assume what it was and fix it but if i
842
00:33:23,930 --> 00:33:27,740
take three errors in a row at that point
843
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,970
i probably can't fix that because I
844
00:33:27,740 --> 00:33:30,350
don't know what I don't know how to
845
00:33:28,970 --> 00:33:32,420
correct that one or zero that's the same
846
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:34,250
basic theory here what noise comes in it
847
00:33:32,420 --> 00:33:36,890
overrides of legitimate data and causes
848
00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:39,740
his scrambled garble crap and you're in
849
00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:42,860
able to really correct it do error
850
00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:48,440
correction on it the throughput ratings
851
00:33:42,860 --> 00:33:51,770
here so with qpsk you got 200 400 800 in
852
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,180
a 1.6 2 3 12 wide channel whiffs you're
853
00:33:51,770 --> 00:33:56,690
not going to see anything out there
854
00:33:53,180 --> 00:34:00,050
today that is smaller than 1.6 the
855
00:33:56,690 --> 00:34:02,360
average is a 3.2 wide carrier if the
856
00:34:00,050 --> 00:34:04,250
company that's servicing you thought
857
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,780
ahead and got rid of the 10 modems in 11
858
00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:08,659
modems and all the motors in their plan
859
00:34:05,780 --> 00:34:10,489
or 20 then they actually can do a higher
860
00:34:08,659 --> 00:34:12,889
upstream modulation and a bigger channel
861
00:34:10,489 --> 00:34:16,209
with they could do the 6.4 wide and they
862
00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:19,909
actually can do a 64 qualms upstream
863
00:34:16,210 --> 00:34:24,070
which a 16 qualms would give these gives
864
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:28,190
you about 10.24 megabit per second up a
865
00:34:24,070 --> 00:34:31,910
64 qualm is somewhere around 24 megabit
866
00:34:28,190 --> 00:34:35,360
per second and then there's also other
867
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:37,100
ways to do that too again you have your
868
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:41,530
required CNR your minimum seeing our
869
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:41,529
values any questions at this point
870
00:34:43,530 --> 00:34:53,409
quam is a modulation type it's it's much
871
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,460
beyond this talk but yeah I mean we'd
872
00:34:53,409 --> 00:35:01,360
have to get we'd have to go into some
873
00:34:54,460 --> 00:35:03,190
deep math to to explain it it's easier
874
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,869
to just explain this and try to go
875
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:06,700
through the slides but basically through
876
00:35:04,869 --> 00:35:08,860
the picture you can see that the red
877
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:10,390
line would be a downstream and then you
878
00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:12,550
see the other color lines the blue
879
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:13,960
orange and green those are up streams
880
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:15,970
remember I told you you can have one
881
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,940
downstream but you might have multiple
882
00:35:15,970 --> 00:35:20,589
up streams in this case each one of
883
00:35:18,940 --> 00:35:23,350
these streets are service areas are
884
00:35:20,590 --> 00:35:24,730
sharing a downstream which as we just
885
00:35:23,350 --> 00:35:27,160
seen has a lot more throughput than an
886
00:35:24,730 --> 00:35:29,470
upstream but each service area may have
887
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:34,210
may have a direct route back to that
888
00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:37,868
seems yes on its own upstream so how's
889
00:35:34,210 --> 00:35:38,800
that work well each of these up streams
890
00:35:37,869 --> 00:35:40,150
can actually be set at the same
891
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,030
frequency because they're not going to
892
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:45,310
the same people just because they share
893
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:46,990
similar downstream doesn't mean that's
894
00:35:45,310 --> 00:35:50,740
in a different frequency there's a
895
00:35:46,990 --> 00:35:52,419
diplexer filter there so you take the
896
00:35:50,740 --> 00:35:54,129
high frequency here in the low frequency
897
00:35:52,420 --> 00:35:56,050
there and you combine them together and
898
00:35:54,130 --> 00:35:57,609
you feed the customer there's no back
899
00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:59,230
feet across the downstream or the
900
00:35:57,609 --> 00:36:02,230
upstream from the other carrier or
901
00:35:59,230 --> 00:36:03,850
connection so that allows you to
902
00:36:02,230 --> 00:36:05,140
actually run the same frequency on your
903
00:36:03,850 --> 00:36:07,450
up streams and run the up streams to
904
00:36:05,140 --> 00:36:09,190
multiple service groups you cannot put
905
00:36:07,450 --> 00:36:12,160
the same upstream you can't use upstream
906
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:14,170
zero and upstream one to the same node
907
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,339
in the field at the same frequency
908
00:36:14,170 --> 00:36:16,270
because again you're writing a top each
909
00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:23,350
other they may be at different
910
00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:25,750
frequencies so how does the cable modem
911
00:36:23,350 --> 00:36:31,109
come online anybody have any idea right
912
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:31,109
now besides people that know me
913
00:36:33,170 --> 00:36:36,990
you plug it in and how does it know how
914
00:36:35,970 --> 00:36:41,779
to transfer data and actually
915
00:36:36,990 --> 00:36:41,779
communicating the cmps is it automagic
916
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:48,839
so at this point if you're if you're not
917
00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:51,330
bored to tears just yet I'm going to
918
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,280
actually explain the cable modem ranging
919
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:55,710
process and how it comes online because
920
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,810
it is a semitic it is a systematic
921
00:36:55,710 --> 00:36:59,580
process and when troubleshooting errors
922
00:36:57,810 --> 00:37:03,090
I can pretty much figure out where the
923
00:36:59,580 --> 00:37:04,440
problem is by looking at how it ranged
924
00:37:03,090 --> 00:37:06,030
or if it was able to complete ranging
925
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,050
because it will tell me I mean mother
926
00:37:06,030 --> 00:37:08,700
most of us here understand
927
00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:10,140
troubleshooting right we don't start at
928
00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:12,868
layer 7 we normally start a layer 1
929
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:14,759
right but is it is it plugged in and
930
00:37:12,869 --> 00:37:17,760
then okay is the playdough is it turned
931
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,350
on and that's the basic truck that's the
932
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,640
basic theory here is when the cable
933
00:37:19,350 --> 00:37:22,529
modem first gets there right and you
934
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,910
plug it in and you turn it on well
935
00:37:22,530 --> 00:37:26,460
what's it going to do well it's going to
936
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:29,629
scan for a downstream frequency it's got
937
00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:33,350
to listen before it can talk well
938
00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:36,630
everything's actually encoded in peg on
939
00:37:33,350 --> 00:37:38,480
the rfm but there's a special frame
940
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:41,640
header on the impact frames for docsis
941
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,140
well you can actually a multiple you
942
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,549
could have one cable company but you can
943
00:37:43,140 --> 00:37:46,259
actually have them reselling their cable
944
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:48,900
service plant with another scene PS from
945
00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:51,510
a competitor or another company on the
946
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:54,119
same cable plant so you got to make sure
947
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:56,190
the motor was go to the right place well
948
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:57,390
part of the ranging the initial ranging
949
00:37:56,190 --> 00:37:59,190
process the first thing is going to do
950
00:37:57,390 --> 00:38:01,710
is disk it asserts its going to charge
951
00:37:59,190 --> 00:38:04,560
scanning frequencies on the downstream
952
00:38:01,710 --> 00:38:07,770
and in this example this is actually a
953
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:11,670
debug session from a cisco modem we can
954
00:38:07,770 --> 00:38:13,200
see it's at 537 didn't see nothing so
955
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:15,450
then it goes next the next frequency
956
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,850
what why is the next frequency 66
957
00:38:15,450 --> 00:38:20,549
megahertz up because this is a channel
958
00:38:17,850 --> 00:38:22,200
with North America keeps going
959
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:24,990
eventually it'll actually see it in here
960
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:28,470
it says cable modem logged es downstream
961
00:38:24,990 --> 00:38:31,259
64 quam lock acquired it found a
962
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:34,680
downstream 64 qualms ignites like sweet
963
00:38:31,260 --> 00:38:37,440
i found my downstream now i gotta wait
964
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:40,379
and the wait state at the very last line
965
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,880
there where it says wait UCD state you
966
00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:45,119
see d stands for upstream channel
967
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,430
descriptor it knows it can hear now but
968
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:48,250
it
969
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:50,710
not know how to communicate back to the
970
00:38:48,250 --> 00:38:53,380
cmps it doesn't know what frequency what
971
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:55,210
modulation scheme what channel width it
972
00:38:53,380 --> 00:38:56,440
doesn't understand that yet that's why
973
00:38:55,210 --> 00:38:57,849
it's waiting for the upstream channel
974
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,290
descriptor because the cmcs and the
975
00:38:57,849 --> 00:39:00,520
downstream is always telling everybody
976
00:38:59,290 --> 00:39:02,770
just case someone wants to come online
977
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,509
it's always screaming out the upstream
978
00:39:02,770 --> 00:39:05,770
requirements for that downstream so if
979
00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:07,030
you're on this downstream bother you
980
00:39:05,770 --> 00:39:09,460
know if you just came on this downstream
981
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:12,160
by the way I have these associated up
982
00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:16,270
streams at these set parameters if you
983
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,920
want to talk to me so it goes through
984
00:39:16,270 --> 00:39:20,770
the UCD so now it's scanning through and
985
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,690
it actually finds an upstream upstream
986
00:39:20,770 --> 00:39:24,430
channel descriptor in this case the
987
00:39:22,690 --> 00:39:27,040
upstream channel descriptor is telling
988
00:39:24,430 --> 00:39:30,940
it 33 megahertz is the center frequency
989
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:32,800
of where you need to be to talk to me on
990
00:39:30,940 --> 00:39:35,800
top of that it's also going to negotiate
991
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:39,880
other information like modulation
992
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:43,660
channel with stuff like that okay so
993
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,829
reading process there is there is
994
00:39:43,660 --> 00:39:47,740
something that you also have to
995
00:39:44,829 --> 00:39:49,990
understand too is the cable plant so
996
00:39:47,740 --> 00:39:51,399
when it comes to you comes your
997
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:53,259
neighbors on fiber when it hits that
998
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:56,559
node it's either up in the pole in the
999
00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:58,420
pedestal the people that are closer to
1000
00:39:56,559 --> 00:40:00,280
that node this isn't dsl they don't get
1001
00:39:58,420 --> 00:40:01,710
to go faster but their signal
1002
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,510
characteristics will be different then
1003
00:40:01,710 --> 00:40:06,520
the guy further down remember before I
1004
00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:08,049
told you plug something in my plant that
1005
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,790
isn't legitimate and you start trying to
1006
00:40:08,049 --> 00:40:12,369
screw around I can find you well this is
1007
00:40:09,790 --> 00:40:14,470
why you can't come online without
1008
00:40:12,369 --> 00:40:16,569
properly knowing their right timing when
1009
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:18,549
to say how to say it and you have to
1010
00:40:16,569 --> 00:40:20,619
have an offset so I have to understand
1011
00:40:18,549 --> 00:40:22,299
the furthest modem away I have to be
1012
00:40:20,619 --> 00:40:24,339
explained I have to have built-in delay
1013
00:40:22,299 --> 00:40:26,770
on all transmissions just in case he's
1014
00:40:24,339 --> 00:40:28,119
talking to on the same fact I can also
1015
00:40:26,770 --> 00:40:31,630
figure out the distance on the planet
1016
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:33,339
through the timing offset but there'll
1017
00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:35,170
be different characteristics to the guy
1018
00:40:33,339 --> 00:40:37,869
that's closer won't have to transmit his
1019
00:40:35,170 --> 00:40:39,430
loud the guy further away down the plant
1020
00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:40,720
the farc a mode he's actually going to
1021
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:43,779
have to speak a lot louder for me to
1022
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:45,459
hear him as the CMT s so his transmit
1023
00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:47,549
value in decibels is going to be a lot
1024
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:50,859
higher than the guy that's closer up
1025
00:40:47,549 --> 00:40:52,569
there are other ways to combat that the
1026
00:40:50,859 --> 00:40:54,130
actual taps they plug your drops in to
1027
00:40:52,569 --> 00:40:55,990
have decibel values and they can change
1028
00:40:54,130 --> 00:40:56,600
the plates dad more attenuation or less
1029
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:58,490
attenuation
1030
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:08,270
depending on how far away you are from
1031
00:40:58,490 --> 00:41:09,950
the hfc node typically so hfc know
1032
00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:13,220
typically would provide services
1033
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:15,439
depending on the cable company and their
1034
00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:16,609
migration plans to kids okay the fact
1035
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,470
the more the fashion that speeds they
1036
00:41:16,610 --> 00:41:22,520
sell you the less customers per node you
1037
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:24,020
want right I yet to actually be a cable
1038
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,940
company that over subscribes on purpose
1039
00:41:24,020 --> 00:41:28,130
and once to like get ninety percent
1040
00:41:25,940 --> 00:41:32,240
bandwidth utilization per node most the
1041
00:41:28,130 --> 00:41:33,710
time I've seen anywhere from a customer
1042
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:36,319
recently worked with only had 32
1043
00:41:33,710 --> 00:41:40,130
customers for fiber note the average is
1044
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,630
about 250 to 500 depending ninety
1045
00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:43,640
percent of your users are using no
1046
00:41:41,630 --> 00:41:44,870
bandwidth almost never they're checking
1047
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,960
their email looking at Facebook they're
1048
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:50,810
not downloading stuff right and that's
1049
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,820
the customers you like they pay you the
1050
00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:54,830
50 70 bucks a month and they don't even
1051
00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:59,750
really use a service then you have the
1052
00:41:54,830 --> 00:42:01,220
people like us we want the cheapest cost
1053
00:41:59,750 --> 00:42:02,560
and we're going to we're going to
1054
00:42:01,220 --> 00:42:04,310
bittorrent that thing until it bleeds
1055
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,200
and we're going to take as much
1056
00:42:04,310 --> 00:42:10,820
bandwidth as we can get out of it we are
1057
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:12,500
the bad customers so the theory goes you
1058
00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:13,580
know five percent of your babe you know
1059
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:15,140
one hundred percent of you like ninety
1060
00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:16,759
percent your bandwidth is actually being
1061
00:42:15,140 --> 00:42:18,589
utilized by like the top two percent of
1062
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,970
your customers like only two but here's
1063
00:42:18,590 --> 00:42:21,410
only two it's only like two percent your
1064
00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:23,930
customers are using most your van with
1065
00:42:21,410 --> 00:42:25,790
everybody else is really doing nothing
1066
00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:30,410
they're doing their windows updates and
1067
00:42:25,790 --> 00:42:34,790
like searching on Google so kind of acts
1068
00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:36,529
the rage process so this is debugging
1069
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:40,700
actually on a cable modem and this is
1070
00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:42,200
basically this is a physical console
1071
00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:44,060
into a cable modem I'm actually looking
1072
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,980
at its process and the messages it does
1073
00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:47,810
i'm watching at each stage as it tries
1074
00:42:45,980 --> 00:42:49,580
to come online and actually get an IP
1075
00:42:47,810 --> 00:42:51,350
address and hit the internet so the
1076
00:42:49,580 --> 00:42:52,670
first stage was it scans the downstream
1077
00:42:51,350 --> 00:42:55,940
it finds a frequency that is actually
1078
00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:57,590
docsis once it finds that downstream it
1079
00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:59,780
waits for a depth stream channel
1080
00:42:57,590 --> 00:43:02,450
descriptor a second ago we found that 33
1081
00:42:59,780 --> 00:43:04,250
megahertz well now in the raging process
1082
00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:07,040
we actually have to work on getting our
1083
00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:09,980
power levels correct so the first thing
1084
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:13,400
I do as I say the same TS can you
1085
00:43:09,980 --> 00:43:16,100
me and I wait for response on the
1086
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,480
downstream that'll get a response my
1087
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:20,529
assumption is I didn't speak loud enough
1088
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,910
you can you hear me a little bit louder
1089
00:43:20,530 --> 00:43:27,530
and I keep screaming until finally I get
1090
00:43:22,910 --> 00:43:29,690
a response so in this debug here you see
1091
00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:34,000
that it starts at six TV then it goes to
1092
00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:36,619
nine then 12 then 15 then 18 and then
1093
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,980
write their range response message
1094
00:43:36,619 --> 00:43:41,660
received it got word back that the CHS
1095
00:43:39,980 --> 00:43:43,730
could hear it at that point the same TS
1096
00:43:41,660 --> 00:43:47,540
might say do why you screaming turn your
1097
00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:50,119
level down 6 DB or I can barely hear you
1098
00:43:47,540 --> 00:43:51,920
can you talk a little louder but that's
1099
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:54,980
arranging process that's ranging state
1100
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,390
which is called in it or one and that's
1101
00:43:54,980 --> 00:43:58,400
just they finally actually had
1102
00:43:56,390 --> 00:44:01,160
communications guess what physical layer
1103
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,320
works ice cream can you hear me the same
1104
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:08,750
she's came exit I can hear you by the
1105
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:10,520
way don't yell at me for so the next
1106
00:44:08,750 --> 00:44:12,109
part of it is actually more or less the
1107
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,490
fine-tuning part where he says hey yeah
1108
00:44:12,109 --> 00:44:18,259
I hear you you're too loud you're too
1109
00:44:13,490 --> 00:44:20,540
quiet duo power adjustment for me after
1110
00:44:18,260 --> 00:44:25,010
that's done the last stages ranging
1111
00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:27,529
complete we're good to go now I can talk
1112
00:44:25,010 --> 00:44:29,390
to the cts but I don't know what my you
1113
00:44:27,530 --> 00:44:31,250
know that I don't have an IP address I
1114
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:34,160
mean I'm a lair to device right now all
1115
00:44:31,250 --> 00:44:36,200
I have is a mac address I don't know
1116
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,430
what my service levels are what's my
1117
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,549
upload and download speeds suppose to be
1118
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:41,690
set to do I have devices hooked into my
1119
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:44,030
ethernet port and do they need IP
1120
00:44:41,690 --> 00:44:45,890
addresses so all I've done at this point
1121
00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:48,890
was give the five level activity done
1122
00:44:45,890 --> 00:44:50,990
and now i'm at layer 2 next stage
1123
00:44:48,890 --> 00:44:52,160
familiar to is going to be layer 3 we
1124
00:44:50,990 --> 00:44:54,830
need an IP address we need more
1125
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:57,649
information so we go into the what's
1126
00:44:54,830 --> 00:44:59,210
called the provisioning stage so in the
1127
00:44:57,650 --> 00:45:00,859
provisioning stage and again i'm just
1128
00:44:59,210 --> 00:45:02,510
going to go a passion a lot of these
1129
00:45:00,859 --> 00:45:04,880
slides because they're going to say what
1130
00:45:02,510 --> 00:45:06,500
I've already said twice probably but and
1131
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,790
the provisioning stage the first thing
1132
00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:11,510
we're going to do is the modem is now
1133
00:45:07,790 --> 00:45:15,350
online but it has not completely
1134
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:17,930
finished registering so if I'm allure to
1135
00:45:15,350 --> 00:45:20,779
device and I'm in a quote unquote subnet
1136
00:45:17,930 --> 00:45:22,319
or domain right and I need to EGP but
1137
00:45:20,780 --> 00:45:24,299
this guy is actually on another network
1138
00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:26,699
I talk to him as a liar to device can I
1139
00:45:24,299 --> 00:45:31,288
talk to Ken to makana mac address be
1140
00:45:26,699 --> 00:45:33,599
routed know so I have to depend on the
1141
00:45:31,289 --> 00:45:39,839
CMT has to relay my information if the
1142
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:45,839
dhcp server is somewhere else yes but
1143
00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:49,589
it's called cable helper and the CLI so
1144
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:52,019
i sent a dhp discover the CMT s realize
1145
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:53,369
that action out to the dhcp server now
1146
00:45:52,019 --> 00:45:56,069
the dhcp server is directly connected
1147
00:45:53,369 --> 00:45:57,599
the CMT s still wants to be involved it
1148
00:45:56,069 --> 00:46:00,089
wants to know what's going on because at
1149
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:02,039
the other day there are some security
1150
00:46:00,089 --> 00:46:05,549
issues here we have to make sure the
1151
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:07,229
correct DSP server is responding so you
1152
00:46:05,549 --> 00:46:08,999
know your normal discover offer received
1153
00:46:07,229 --> 00:46:10,468
the dora process when it comes with dhcp
1154
00:46:08,999 --> 00:46:12,660
so this is going to be a little lame or
1155
00:46:10,469 --> 00:46:17,910
since there yeah I hear you offer offer
1156
00:46:12,660 --> 00:46:21,209
acknowledgement ok so our modem now has
1157
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:23,368
its IP address which is called an hfc
1158
00:46:21,209 --> 00:46:25,049
address it's normally a 10 or 192 it's a
1159
00:46:23,369 --> 00:46:27,599
private network between the cable modem
1160
00:46:25,049 --> 00:46:31,739
and the CMT s no computers behind it yet
1161
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:33,390
just the modem itself and the CMT s so
1162
00:46:31,739 --> 00:46:34,529
there's actually two separate networks
1163
00:46:33,390 --> 00:46:36,328
here when you plug your computer in
1164
00:46:34,529 --> 00:46:38,009
you're going over basically a media
1165
00:46:36,329 --> 00:46:40,109
converter but the media converter has
1166
00:46:38,009 --> 00:46:41,579
its own layer 3 connectivity to the CMT
1167
00:46:40,109 --> 00:46:43,469
is the cable modem CFG has have their
1168
00:46:41,579 --> 00:46:45,449
own IP addressing structure over the hfc
1169
00:46:43,469 --> 00:46:48,569
interface or the coaxial cable network
1170
00:46:45,449 --> 00:46:51,119
and then on top of that it passes along
1171
00:46:48,569 --> 00:46:53,219
IP addresses to the customers devices
1172
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:56,759
your linksys router or whatever d-link
1173
00:46:53,219 --> 00:46:59,719
whatever you have or your computers well
1174
00:46:56,759 --> 00:46:59,719
in the provisioning process
1175
00:47:06,299 --> 00:47:11,788
okay I suppose get through some those
1176
00:47:08,849 --> 00:47:13,199
slices right over the load time but once
1177
00:47:11,789 --> 00:47:14,339
i get the dhp address and i actually
1178
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:15,959
have an IP address for the cape modem
1179
00:47:14,339 --> 00:47:18,359
itself I need something called tu t or
1180
00:47:15,959 --> 00:47:20,368
time of day and if I ever dealt with the
1181
00:47:18,359 --> 00:47:28,439
time at a server maybe I have any idea
1182
00:47:20,369 --> 00:47:29,609
what that is not that timing there is a
1183
00:47:28,439 --> 00:47:32,459
frequency timing oh that's a little bit
1184
00:47:29,609 --> 00:47:33,929
different the time of day server is kind
1185
00:47:32,459 --> 00:47:35,069
of funny but have you ever turned a
1186
00:47:33,929 --> 00:47:37,289
device on they didn't have a bios
1187
00:47:35,069 --> 00:47:41,189
battery what date did it give you
1188
00:47:37,289 --> 00:47:42,329
something 1970 well the motor was going
1189
00:47:41,189 --> 00:47:44,368
to do that too because it doesn't have a
1190
00:47:42,329 --> 00:47:46,140
bios better anything else so it needs a
1191
00:47:44,369 --> 00:47:48,119
time of day server because any time it
1192
00:47:46,140 --> 00:47:49,709
has a log or an error or an issue it
1193
00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:52,079
saves it to its own little log saw log
1194
00:47:49,709 --> 00:47:53,669
server internally and it's going to have
1195
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:56,729
to be able to accurately timestamp that
1196
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:59,719
information so you know if I had a flap
1197
00:47:56,729 --> 00:48:02,819
at this point it's not 1970 was in 2010
1198
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,829
this date this time this millisecond so
1199
00:48:02,819 --> 00:48:08,459
as you're coming up party of a
1200
00:48:04,829 --> 00:48:11,609
provisioning process through RFC 868 is
1201
00:48:08,459 --> 00:48:12,719
a time at a server once you do your time
1202
00:48:11,609 --> 00:48:15,328
at a server then you can move on the
1203
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,880
process the next process is going to be
1204
00:48:15,329 --> 00:48:20,910
the tftp so this is where the cable
1205
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:24,809
modem is requesting its config file from
1206
00:48:20,910 --> 00:48:26,399
the msos THV server this is going to
1207
00:48:24,809 --> 00:48:28,189
provide the modem information it could
1208
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,689
even be providing it a firmware upgrade
1209
00:48:28,189 --> 00:48:31,828
but this is going to be the upstream and
1210
00:48:30,689 --> 00:48:34,078
downstream filters the caps
1211
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:36,239
quote-unquote that some people want to
1212
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:39,719
break it's also going to provide
1213
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:42,209
protection for the customer you may not
1214
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,039
want your your information and your some
1215
00:48:42,209 --> 00:48:45,928
of your network stuff filtered but it's
1216
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:48,269
always probably not a bad idea if
1217
00:48:45,929 --> 00:48:51,569
well-known important numbers are blocked
1218
00:48:48,269 --> 00:48:53,008
and i'm not talking about port 80
1219
00:48:51,569 --> 00:48:55,650
because you want to run a web server i'm
1220
00:48:53,009 --> 00:48:57,239
talking about known exploit ports it is
1221
00:48:55,650 --> 00:49:00,420
possible to put in the modems config
1222
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:02,219
file port filters are a meany access
1223
00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:03,630
control list into it where it knows that
1224
00:49:02,219 --> 00:49:06,599
it doesn't need to speak to the Ten
1225
00:49:03,630 --> 00:49:08,459
Network it knows that it shouldn't go
1226
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,959
here or shouldn't go there they're very
1227
00:49:08,459 --> 00:49:11,759
limited and they're very small and you
1228
00:49:09,959 --> 00:49:12,779
can only put a couple in there but nine
1229
00:49:11,759 --> 00:49:14,699
times out of ten those are there
1230
00:49:12,779 --> 00:49:16,019
actually protect the customer there are
1231
00:49:14,699 --> 00:49:17,660
some service limiting ones you can put
1232
00:49:16,019 --> 00:49:18,919
in there like port 80 and
1233
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:21,200
keep people for something you actually
1234
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,819
running an email server because we all
1235
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,069
love spam and we want everybody to have
1236
00:49:22,819 --> 00:49:26,270
a spam server but there's some of the
1237
00:49:25,069 --> 00:49:32,180
things that it can be put in the config
1238
00:49:26,270 --> 00:49:34,130
file maximum IP address request is
1239
00:49:32,180 --> 00:49:37,460
another one so if your cable coming only
1240
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:40,490
gives you one IP the they can actually
1241
00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:42,829
put it in there so if you ever plugged a
1242
00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:43,879
computer into a cable modem you got it
1243
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:45,349
online everything else that you need to
1244
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,730
switch it over something else and you
1245
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:48,680
plug it in doesn't work you gotta power
1246
00:49:46,730 --> 00:49:51,559
cycle the thing well because i had a mac
1247
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,700
CP hosts file in there said one and it
1248
00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:53,809
already knows the mac address of the guy
1249
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:56,210
that was plugged into it so you've got
1250
00:49:53,809 --> 00:50:00,049
to clear it out by resetting it that's
1251
00:49:56,210 --> 00:50:02,359
another thing too so once we actually
1252
00:50:00,049 --> 00:50:06,950
finish the tftp process the last stage
1253
00:50:02,359 --> 00:50:10,279
is actually option files we're not going
1254
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:13,669
to go into that registration request for
1255
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:16,579
official response once it finishes its
1256
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:19,280
registration there is one more stage
1257
00:50:16,579 --> 00:50:22,420
which is BPI initialization baseline
1258
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:25,460
privacy interface that's the encryption
1259
00:50:22,420 --> 00:50:29,119
so just about every cable company that I
1260
00:50:25,460 --> 00:50:32,180
know of that is decent sized at least is
1261
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:33,799
running DPI encryption it's free it's
1262
00:50:32,180 --> 00:50:37,339
part of the spec you don't have to run
1263
00:50:33,799 --> 00:50:38,930
it but it's probably a good idea so V
1264
00:50:37,339 --> 00:50:41,930
PIR BPI plus depending on what version
1265
00:50:38,930 --> 00:50:44,538
of docsis baseline privacy interface so
1266
00:50:41,930 --> 00:50:46,180
what is that well basically it's a king
1267
00:50:44,539 --> 00:50:49,880
mechanism where I can encrypt the data
1268
00:50:46,180 --> 00:50:51,740
going down to the customer I can encrypt
1269
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,049
that data so only that modem can
1270
00:50:51,740 --> 00:51:01,038
unencrypted it and read it so there's no
1271
00:50:54,049 --> 00:51:03,259
snooping BPI plus came in docsis 11 and
1272
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:05,390
then actually added an additional field
1273
00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:06,770
so BPI the baseline privacy interface
1274
00:51:05,390 --> 00:51:09,470
what's Ted up to protect the customers
1275
00:51:06,770 --> 00:51:10,940
privacy you don't people sniffing your
1276
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:13,578
banking information you can't you can
1277
00:51:10,940 --> 00:51:15,799
sniff on a dog in a data network there's
1278
00:51:13,579 --> 00:51:17,170
ways to do that was talk to DEFCON the
1279
00:51:15,799 --> 00:51:19,490
one thing that I bring up at DEFCON is
1280
00:51:17,170 --> 00:51:24,529
everybody uses BPI so the talk was
1281
00:51:19,490 --> 00:51:28,339
useless but there is BPI plus that came
1282
00:51:24,529 --> 00:51:29,420
with docsis 11 BPI plus went beyond is
1283
00:51:28,339 --> 00:51:30,558
protecting the customer but then
1284
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:34,950
protecting the cable
1285
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:38,040
so with BPI it didn't really verify that
1286
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:39,270
if the device was cloned or not so you
1287
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,529
can have two devices with the same
1288
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:43,530
magnetars in the network because they
1289
00:51:40,530 --> 00:51:45,390
won't work right so with with depending
1290
00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:46,710
on what vendor feature code you have it
1291
00:51:45,390 --> 00:51:48,210
will ignore the second one or they both
1292
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:51,359
get on they'll both get knocked off line
1293
00:51:48,210 --> 00:51:52,890
depending on features but with BPI you
1294
00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:54,390
encrypted the data so nobody's getting
1295
00:51:52,890 --> 00:51:56,609
the data stolen but you're not
1296
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:58,980
preventing theft of service BPI plus
1297
00:51:56,609 --> 00:52:01,230
they actually had the manufacturers
1298
00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:03,359
inject x509certificate into the modems
1299
00:52:01,230 --> 00:52:04,770
firmware that's actually built into the
1300
00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:06,990
modem that's signed with the frequency
1301
00:52:04,770 --> 00:52:08,940
to a root certificate that CA verisign
1302
00:52:06,990 --> 00:52:10,859
approved that's installed in actual CMT
1303
00:52:08,940 --> 00:52:13,319
s so it can verify that's a valid bender
1304
00:52:10,859 --> 00:52:15,900
and there's about device unless you have
1305
00:52:13,319 --> 00:52:17,549
the vendors private key to write your
1306
00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:20,250
own certificates you're not going to
1307
00:52:17,549 --> 00:52:21,180
break it and there's only one way to go
1308
00:52:20,250 --> 00:52:23,430
around that that's called a perfect
1309
00:52:21,180 --> 00:52:25,169
clone and you actually have the physical
1310
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:26,640
access to somebody else's modem to do a
1311
00:52:25,170 --> 00:52:28,380
perfect clone on it you can't remotely
1312
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:34,970
steal it the information off their modem
1313
00:52:28,380 --> 00:52:34,970
to replicate it what's that
1314
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,330
now they should be available cablelabs
1315
00:52:39,710 --> 00:52:43,280
is an open standard but you may have to
1316
00:52:41,330 --> 00:52:45,470
be a member to access some of the
1317
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,430
reading documents you can feel free to
1318
00:52:45,470 --> 00:52:48,919
hit me up later if you want some more
1319
00:52:46,430 --> 00:52:50,240
information on it but with dr. Surrey oh
1320
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,940
it's actually they've changed the whole
1321
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:55,759
idea on it and it's actually 256 AES
1322
00:52:52,940 --> 00:52:57,470
encryption now and the the rekeying can
1323
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:01,400
be said is as low as every five minutes
1324
00:52:57,470 --> 00:53:04,129
per device so it's going to be really
1325
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,330
hard to break that encryption and most
1326
00:53:04,130 --> 00:53:10,790
of us can't afford the equipment and
1327
00:53:05,330 --> 00:53:13,160
tools to do it the modem is always going
1328
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:14,840
to be sending communications back the
1329
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,910
CMT should always be asking the modem at
1330
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,370
least every so often how you doing how
1331
00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:20,960
you doing great to know you're there by
1332
00:53:19,370 --> 00:53:22,670
the way your your levels are fine your
1333
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,560
levels need to be adjusted those are
1334
00:53:22,670 --> 00:53:25,910
normal that's normal States and makes
1335
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:31,670
maintenance functionality it's almost
1336
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:33,680
like a heartbeat that's what I just said
1337
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:36,350
right there maintenance so at least one
1338
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:39,680
every 30 seconds it's expecting to see
1339
00:53:36,350 --> 00:53:43,310
each modem in the plan what they didn't
1340
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:46,069
touch so the VXR I have upstairs the CMT
1341
00:53:43,310 --> 00:53:50,420
s i have upstairs the 7046 txr is
1342
00:53:46,070 --> 00:53:52,850
capable of supporting easily 5000 modems
1343
00:53:50,420 --> 00:53:54,500
off that one device I have and that's
1344
00:53:52,850 --> 00:53:56,150
the small one the one I normally work
1345
00:53:54,500 --> 00:54:01,940
with my customers on is the cisco ten
1346
00:53:56,150 --> 00:54:05,540
thousand twelve or called 10k 64,000
1347
00:54:01,940 --> 00:54:07,070
cable modems / chassis but if you're
1348
00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:09,259
providing any real service you're going
1349
00:54:07,070 --> 00:54:12,950
to probably have it around 20,000 to
1350
00:54:09,260 --> 00:54:13,880
30,000 so the way negress ports and some
1351
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:16,730
of the newer stuff of doctors here
1352
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:19,640
because you're increasing the increase
1353
00:54:16,730 --> 00:54:22,310
in the speed per customer you went from
1354
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,900
having gig ports on the actual box to
1355
00:54:22,310 --> 00:54:27,080
having 10 gig interfaces and multiple to
1356
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:31,460
engage interfaces so I'm just about out
1357
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:35,480
of time this is just a customer getting
1358
00:54:31,460 --> 00:54:37,520
the IP address yeah product overview of
1359
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:42,020
me this is a picture of the device I've
1360
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:46,460
upstairs this is the 10k 10000 series it
1361
00:54:42,020 --> 00:54:49,250
has has eight line cards over here and
1362
00:54:46,460 --> 00:54:50,900
these are five by 20s or 20 by 20 so
1363
00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:52,970
five down stream's 20 up streams or 20
1364
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:54,770
up streams 20 down stream's then on top
1365
00:54:52,970 --> 00:54:57,500
of that there's the ability to do what's
1366
00:54:54,770 --> 00:54:59,600
called MC mts modular see if yes we're
1367
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:01,700
through the when the high-capacity Wayne
1368
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,980
card slots I can actually put it was
1369
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:05,779
called a spa or sip a spa adapter and
1370
00:55:03,980 --> 00:55:08,450
then I can buy these little koala
1371
00:55:05,780 --> 00:55:10,100
modulator and i can add like 24 channels
1372
00:55:08,450 --> 00:55:11,750
per one you and just start stacking them
1373
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:15,170
and add 24 more down terms on top of
1374
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:16,670
that so it's gotten more cost effective
1375
00:55:15,170 --> 00:55:18,170
to be a cable company with these newer
1376
00:55:16,670 --> 00:55:21,770
technologies the cost has come down a
1377
00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:23,270
lot to any questions at this time this
1378
00:55:21,770 --> 00:55:29,110
is all product literature stuff so it's
1379
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:29,110
not really too deep good
1380
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:39,000
no if if the cable company one to pull
1381
00:55:37,170 --> 00:55:40,800
the logs off your modem which it doesn't
1382
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,940
contain anything sensitive it's just
1383
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,560
signal levels and when it misses a
1384
00:55:41,940 --> 00:55:47,130
maintenance they would have to pull that
1385
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,420
SNMP so docsis standard says that even
1386
00:55:47,130 --> 00:55:50,010
though you have a motive of your house
1387
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:51,510
it's actually responsibility cable
1388
00:55:50,010 --> 00:55:52,920
company to maintain that device for you
1389
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:54,420
you're not allowed to upgrade the
1390
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,540
firmware on your own and only it can be
1391
00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:58,860
done through the docsis interface but
1392
00:55:56,540 --> 00:56:00,240
the cable companies also determining the
1393
00:55:58,860 --> 00:56:01,380
quality of the network through what it
1394
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:03,029
gets back from each of the modem so
1395
00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:05,820
ninety percent of people don't turn the
1396
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:06,900
modems off that they actually use that
1397
00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:09,270
to scale to make sure that there's no
1398
00:56:06,900 --> 00:56:10,590
outages by seeing those online motives
1399
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:18,200
because they're talking every 30 seconds
1400
00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:18,200
anyway what's that
1401
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:28,890
they're pretty generic it depends on the
1402
00:56:26,369 --> 00:56:30,240
vendor but there's not a lot you can do
1403
00:56:28,890 --> 00:56:31,470
there it's going to trigger anything if
1404
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:33,569
you're really screwing with your modem
1405
00:56:31,470 --> 00:56:36,029
they're already going to see for the
1406
00:56:33,569 --> 00:56:38,970
most part because your config file
1407
00:56:36,030 --> 00:56:40,230
either one you don't have a x509 private
1408
00:56:38,970 --> 00:56:44,220
key from the vendor so you're not going
1409
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:45,650
to modify that too if you change your
1410
00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:48,240
bin file name they're going to see it
1411
00:56:45,650 --> 00:56:49,799
because they're talking every 30 seconds
1412
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:51,930
so I know what's going on so the changes
1413
00:56:49,799 --> 00:56:54,210
even beyond signal level I can easily
1414
00:56:51,930 --> 00:56:56,640
pull that plus if you tried to clone a
1415
00:56:54,210 --> 00:56:59,490
device one you would have to be on a
1416
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,960
different CMT s and I would see where
1417
00:56:59,490 --> 00:57:02,220
you were and I would see your signal
1418
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,809
characteristics like it pretty much
1419
00:57:02,220 --> 00:57:05,578
guess where you're at physically in the
1420
00:57:03,809 --> 00:57:07,380
real world I could overlay my cable
1421
00:57:05,579 --> 00:57:09,150
plant over google maps and then have a
1422
00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:10,980
little dot show up like right your house
1423
00:57:09,150 --> 00:57:12,329
the only time they get so slightly
1424
00:57:10,980 --> 00:57:14,660
difficult when it's an apartment complex
1425
00:57:12,329 --> 00:57:27,569
because the houses are so close together
1426
00:57:14,660 --> 00:57:31,910
I'm out of time so thank you and room
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