1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,030 go grab them hopefully let them finish 2 00:00:02,370 --> 00:00:05,030 before you 3 00:00:18,330 --> 00:00:29,560 tell me when you're ready since about 4 00:00:27,700 --> 00:00:31,779 hey Rach you're walking hall and ask 5 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,949 everybody tell thereby were fixin start 6 00:00:31,779 --> 00:00:43,830 if they're going to come in and there's 7 00:00:32,949 --> 00:00:43,830 a Bob talks I actually will explain that 8 00:01:20,380 --> 00:01:22,439 you 9 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:40,010 sorry were they doing just hanging out 10 00:01:36,790 --> 00:01:44,300 screw it we have video they can watch 11 00:01:40,010 --> 00:01:45,860 the play back printed see blind i guess 12 00:01:44,300 --> 00:01:48,910 the alignment done everything i heered 13 00:01:45,860 --> 00:01:48,910 like two minutes of a fired-up 14 00:02:09,149 --> 00:02:19,120 we are you going to stand up here you're 15 00:02:11,410 --> 00:02:24,959 going to sit down and stable yeah hang 16 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,959 around here fact you want to plug it in 17 00:02:26,730 --> 00:02:32,769 might as well I mean you shouldn't jump 18 00:02:28,870 --> 00:02:35,850 in right behind which one them behind us 19 00:02:32,770 --> 00:02:35,850 right here I'll straddling 20 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,300 you 21 00:03:13,340 --> 00:03:21,299 a clicker thing they're they're 22 00:03:16,980 --> 00:03:26,310 literally I'm just impressed if I were 23 00:03:21,299 --> 00:03:32,909 fancy enough to use slides this is going 24 00:03:26,310 --> 00:03:35,459 to overtake the no no did you have your 25 00:03:32,909 --> 00:03:36,959 yourself there no II don't get a kick 26 00:03:35,459 --> 00:03:47,629 over whenever it pulls it you go ahead 27 00:03:36,959 --> 00:03:47,629 and set it up so the last thing 28 00:03:53,569 --> 00:03:57,629 basically explains the whole thing look 29 00:03:56,609 --> 00:04:01,379 at the neighbor diagram you've got my 30 00:03:57,629 --> 00:04:03,530 whole top you see blind coming back or 31 00:04:01,379 --> 00:04:03,530 what 32 00:04:08,660 --> 00:04:22,670 alrighty then you're gonna fire it up 33 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:25,940 we'll start recording hi everybody hey 34 00:04:22,670 --> 00:04:30,290 let me record that for my ringtone set 35 00:04:25,940 --> 00:04:33,620 your phone ringing hi skydog so is Emma 36 00:04:30,290 --> 00:04:37,420 having a good time excellent excellent 37 00:04:33,620 --> 00:04:47,390 if I well-fed have you eaten there one 38 00:04:37,420 --> 00:04:49,910 hi huh hahaha bitch beer anyway well 39 00:04:47,390 --> 00:04:52,700 excellent so I'm skydog if you don't 40 00:04:49,910 --> 00:04:54,230 know who i am i'm the one who's legally 41 00:04:52,700 --> 00:04:57,409 responsible for all this fiasco i 42 00:04:54,230 --> 00:05:01,580 believe unless you count the hotel then 43 00:04:57,410 --> 00:05:03,950 it's scott um so I'm going to I'm going 44 00:05:01,580 --> 00:05:08,680 to kick off the Bob talks who knows what 45 00:05:03,950 --> 00:05:11,659 ted talks are who likes the TED Talks 46 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:14,000 right i love the TED Talks the downside 47 00:05:11,660 --> 00:05:16,750 of the dead dogs none of us will ever 48 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,040 sit in the audience at a TED talk 49 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:21,320 they're supposed to come to nashville 50 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,390 and i believe it was like 30 grand or 51 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,790 something you had to pay some outrageous 52 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:27,530 fee to be able to live stream the stuff 53 00:05:25,790 --> 00:05:30,440 off the web to be able to watch it in 54 00:05:27,530 --> 00:05:32,690 real time honestly I can do that while I 55 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,310 work and watch the stuff after it's been 56 00:05:32,690 --> 00:05:36,290 post processed and all the neat things 57 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:38,690 have been put in it so why am I going to 58 00:05:36,290 --> 00:05:40,490 spend that money I really like the idea 59 00:05:38,690 --> 00:05:42,680 of the TED talks some of them are two 60 00:05:40,490 --> 00:05:45,760 minutes long some of them are 15 to 20 61 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:49,970 depends on what the subject matter is so 62 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:51,860 as how most things actually take place I 63 00:05:49,970 --> 00:05:53,390 was bored one day for a good 30 seconds 64 00:05:51,860 --> 00:05:56,330 or so and I thought you know what would 65 00:05:53,390 --> 00:05:59,990 be really cool to do did I just say that 66 00:05:56,330 --> 00:06:02,930 geez what would be really cool would be 67 00:05:59,990 --> 00:06:04,490 to do something like ted talks but then 68 00:06:02,930 --> 00:06:06,230 i thought i really don't want to start 69 00:06:04,490 --> 00:06:09,890 another conference well maybe I do I 70 00:06:06,230 --> 00:06:12,110 don't know so I thought let's do Bob we 71 00:06:09,890 --> 00:06:17,210 had inner zone now there's outer zone 72 00:06:12,110 --> 00:06:20,650 there's Ted now there's Bob so they said 73 00:06:17,210 --> 00:06:20,650 that kick his ass 74 00:06:21,620 --> 00:06:30,120 d actually make a good point but anyway 75 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:32,640 we called it Bob talks um someone 76 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,110 actually suggested breaker build which 77 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,490 is kind of a take office and the stuff 78 00:06:34,110 --> 00:06:39,480 that schmuck on does there a different 79 00:06:35,490 --> 00:06:40,980 track so i really like the the idea of 80 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,040 the short staccato those things because 81 00:06:40,980 --> 00:06:46,530 some people won't be able to come up 82 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,570 with 45 to 50 minutes worth of material 83 00:06:46,530 --> 00:06:51,000 for their their talk and would like to 84 00:06:48,570 --> 00:06:53,700 do something short sweet to the point it 85 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,530 is not something where start to finish 86 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:57,180 you explain everything have this big 87 00:06:55,530 --> 00:06:58,890 long drawn out conversation with 88 00:06:57,180 --> 00:07:00,750 everyone in the crowd it's a hey here's 89 00:06:58,890 --> 00:07:02,370 what my idea is this is a general thing 90 00:07:00,750 --> 00:07:04,020 catch me later buy me a drink and I'll 91 00:07:02,370 --> 00:07:07,650 explain the rest will collaborate on it 92 00:07:04,020 --> 00:07:14,729 so it's kind of the general idea behind 93 00:07:07,650 --> 00:07:17,520 it so I have to take a little bit of 94 00:07:14,730 --> 00:07:20,840 crap because the website wasn't updated 95 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:26,219 as much as it needed to be if at all but 96 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:28,229 hey listen man you're a tough crowd um I 97 00:07:26,220 --> 00:07:29,729 didn't get to a lot of the things that I 98 00:07:28,229 --> 00:07:31,289 needed to get to this year in the time 99 00:07:29,729 --> 00:07:32,550 they need to get to him so next year 100 00:07:31,290 --> 00:07:33,630 we're going to have a web sorry I think 101 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:34,800 I've actually found somebody who's going 102 00:07:33,630 --> 00:07:38,100 to take care of a lot of the web stuff 103 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:40,020 for me so that it takes some of the load 104 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:41,760 off main because I'm not a web guy I'm 105 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:43,609 you know I build infrastructure and 106 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,320 things like that I make a really really 107 00:07:43,610 --> 00:07:49,290 directed to the point website with no 108 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:55,800 flashy graphics so I'd like to thank 109 00:07:49,290 --> 00:08:00,720 everything my image folder has like nine 110 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:03,210 images in it two of them are me so I 111 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,460 wanted to say thank you to all of the 112 00:08:03,210 --> 00:08:08,340 people who first of all actually 113 00:08:05,460 --> 00:08:10,380 volunteered to do a talk here second of 114 00:08:08,340 --> 00:08:12,510 all the people that volunteer to do a 115 00:08:10,380 --> 00:08:14,400 bob talk there it only listed two of 116 00:08:12,510 --> 00:08:17,250 them on the page I had several people 117 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:19,890 come up and offer to do them we had 118 00:08:17,250 --> 00:08:23,700 several people who were slated to do it 119 00:08:19,890 --> 00:08:25,349 but I actually one was having to drive 120 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:28,349 out here at the time so I couldn't have 121 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:31,260 to a website spending about seven hours 122 00:08:28,349 --> 00:08:32,819 in transit which is a lot of fun so I 123 00:08:31,260 --> 00:08:34,890 like to say thank you to everyone who 124 00:08:32,820 --> 00:08:38,580 you stepped up and said I'd be glad to 125 00:08:34,890 --> 00:08:45,330 do it a bob talk and so everyone round 126 00:08:38,580 --> 00:08:46,800 of applause I'm kind of hoping the 127 00:08:45,330 --> 00:08:48,540 distal end up being something we do 128 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,240 every year we take an hour or two and 129 00:08:48,540 --> 00:08:53,099 they're there nice quick staccato talks 130 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,500 and everyone kind of gets to think 131 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:58,380 something up not that I want every talk 132 00:08:55,500 --> 00:09:01,020 to be that way irony can stop after 30 133 00:08:58,380 --> 00:09:02,640 minutes but just kidding he's actually 134 00:09:01,020 --> 00:09:04,439 going to do another one we can't get him 135 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:08,699 to talking one contiguous block so we'll 136 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:12,900 break it up um so who gets the movie 137 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:15,750 reference it's good to be the king this 138 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:17,370 remote part one who is the actor but no 139 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:19,380 one could tell me what the launch code 140 00:09:17,370 --> 00:09:23,940 was for the missiles in war games come 141 00:09:19,380 --> 00:09:27,689 on guys killing me it's good to be the 142 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:29,730 king everything's so green so since it's 143 00:09:27,690 --> 00:09:33,840 good to be the king I'm actually going 144 00:09:29,730 --> 00:09:39,180 to do my my talk first because im mean 145 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:40,800 that way um we have six people are 146 00:09:39,180 --> 00:09:43,140 actually going to get up in or six 147 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,180 groups people they're actually going to 148 00:09:43,140 --> 00:09:48,030 get up and do the Bob talks myself cp's 149 00:09:45,180 --> 00:09:50,729 got one coming up Madeline's from free 150 00:09:48,030 --> 00:09:53,640 side you're going to do one iron geek 151 00:09:50,730 --> 00:09:56,010 and then the group of Sporus naudia and 152 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,470 possibly k see if he's awake I haven't 153 00:09:56,010 --> 00:09:59,640 seen him yet today and then Arafat's 154 00:09:58,470 --> 00:10:02,820 going to get up these good a few minutes 155 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,350 he wants to talk so they're very quick 156 00:10:02,820 --> 00:10:06,810 and staccato there about ten minutes 157 00:10:04,350 --> 00:10:08,820 long at most we've got a couple minutes 158 00:10:06,810 --> 00:10:09,959 in between to reset for laptops and 159 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:12,720 things of that nature so we'll try to 160 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,580 shuffle through them really quick i will 161 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:21,840 stop yammering if anyone claps I'll 162 00:10:14,580 --> 00:10:29,070 smack you there's one in every crowd so 163 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:31,680 I wanted to do a talk and there are very 164 00:10:29,070 --> 00:10:34,110 few things that actually I'm a subject 165 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:35,310 matter expert on that I can feel 166 00:10:34,110 --> 00:10:37,500 comfortable about standing up and 167 00:10:35,310 --> 00:10:40,800 talking and I've already done all those 168 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:44,290 toxic on so well I'm working on the next 169 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:46,779 one but this is it so what is a hacker 170 00:10:44,290 --> 00:10:49,509 and everyone in the room I don't know if 171 00:10:46,779 --> 00:10:51,490 we want to split everybody off and you 172 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:56,019 know we'll do this hand raising everyone 173 00:10:51,490 --> 00:10:57,310 will go from one side of the other there 174 00:10:56,019 --> 00:11:00,940 have been several people that try to 175 00:10:57,310 --> 00:11:04,439 categorize us the media which most of 176 00:11:00,940 --> 00:11:06,459 them are assholes yeah hiss boo 177 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,649 ourselves if you've ever been to 178 00:11:06,459 --> 00:11:11,649 shmoocon some of the other cons they'll 179 00:11:08,649 --> 00:11:13,569 be either panel talks or there'll be 180 00:11:11,649 --> 00:11:16,000 guys standing around and we're arguing 181 00:11:13,569 --> 00:11:17,560 about it what we call each other your 182 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,079 white hat you're a black hat your gray 183 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:21,459 hat which I don't think anyone ever uses 184 00:11:20,079 --> 00:11:24,310 those way back in the day it was you're 185 00:11:21,459 --> 00:11:26,170 a hacker you're a cracker nowadays I 186 00:11:24,310 --> 00:11:28,388 think we're just hackers and criminals 187 00:11:26,170 --> 00:11:34,560 so take your pick which one you are I 188 00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:38,440 think terrorists yeah you remember 189 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:40,630 maverick went to bna nationals airport 190 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,149 and one year at freaknik our t-shirts 191 00:11:40,630 --> 00:11:44,560 said I'm a hacker not a terrorist and it 192 00:11:43,149 --> 00:11:46,420 was right after nine eleven so he was 193 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:48,189 walking around through the airport to 194 00:11:46,420 --> 00:11:49,569 pick someone up hold his hand over the 195 00:11:48,190 --> 00:11:51,220 logo because he was afraid that they 196 00:11:49,569 --> 00:11:53,380 were going to tackle him in for him to 197 00:11:51,220 --> 00:11:55,029 the ground and actually probably have 198 00:11:53,380 --> 00:12:01,269 been a good idea to do that to maverick 199 00:11:55,029 --> 00:12:03,100 but what can you say um so we have a 200 00:12:01,269 --> 00:12:06,810 hard time actually kind of categorizing 201 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:11,410 ourselves and I don't think that one or 202 00:12:06,810 --> 00:12:15,810 two or even three tags actually 203 00:12:11,410 --> 00:12:18,040 categorize who we are and what we do I 204 00:12:15,810 --> 00:12:26,260 know there are a lot of words used to 205 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:29,290 describe me did oh you are me so who 206 00:12:26,260 --> 00:12:31,899 knows who Ashley Schwartz alia is a few 207 00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:33,790 of us she put a DVD out she did a 208 00:12:31,899 --> 00:12:38,110 documentary where she went to to work on 209 00:12:33,790 --> 00:12:41,110 and she went to DEFCON i believe and got 210 00:12:38,110 --> 00:12:43,209 a lot of video and hers was a DVD called 211 00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:44,439 hackers are people too and it was kind 212 00:12:43,209 --> 00:12:46,449 of funny because a lot of the guys that 213 00:12:44,439 --> 00:12:48,519 I run around with the DEFCON shmoo work 214 00:12:46,449 --> 00:12:50,500 you know they're just kind of informal 215 00:12:48,519 --> 00:12:51,970 interviews and and someone said it best 216 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:53,110 I think it was actually annoyed that 217 00:12:51,970 --> 00:12:54,850 said 218 00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:57,279 you know we're just like everyone else 219 00:12:54,850 --> 00:12:59,800 you know we're not dark shadowy 220 00:12:57,279 --> 00:13:01,209 characters you know in a basement locked 221 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,189 away somewhere working on something you 222 00:13:01,209 --> 00:13:05,079 know we do our laundry we my our yards 223 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:06,850 we have to do that stuff so we're just 224 00:13:05,079 --> 00:13:08,199 kind of standard people we just look at 225 00:13:06,850 --> 00:13:12,670 things a lot differently than the rest 226 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:14,200 of the world does so I I'm the president 227 00:13:12,670 --> 00:13:18,010 of the hacker consortium which is our 228 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:21,269 maker shop in Nashville Tennessee um we 229 00:13:18,010 --> 00:13:26,170 have a lot of different people there I 230 00:13:21,269 --> 00:13:29,829 who did basic okay some of the older 231 00:13:26,170 --> 00:13:32,290 guys um I did basic added Pascal in 232 00:13:29,829 --> 00:13:33,819 college you know I'm not that big of a 233 00:13:32,290 --> 00:13:37,019 programmer I do it when I've got a gun 234 00:13:33,820 --> 00:13:42,579 to my head and I have to do it I'm huh 235 00:13:37,019 --> 00:13:44,709 well actually I never mind um I don't I 236 00:13:42,579 --> 00:13:46,269 don't code unless I have to if it's 237 00:13:44,709 --> 00:13:48,219 something where I have to figure out a 238 00:13:46,269 --> 00:13:50,019 way to get data from here to there and 239 00:13:48,220 --> 00:13:52,990 it requires me to open a book and figure 240 00:13:50,019 --> 00:13:55,269 it out so that's not really my gig now 241 00:13:52,990 --> 00:13:56,769 air that in the back arafat programs and 242 00:13:55,269 --> 00:13:58,269 Ruby like nobody's business I've never 243 00:13:56,769 --> 00:13:59,589 seen someone flipped between screen 244 00:13:58,269 --> 00:14:04,899 sessions as quickly and as efficiently 245 00:13:59,589 --> 00:14:06,730 as he does that's his gig he's one of 246 00:14:04,899 --> 00:14:09,760 our resident programmers wrench is 247 00:14:06,730 --> 00:14:12,180 another one so we all kind of have our 248 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:16,120 own strengths and weaknesses I'm a 249 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:17,739 physical materials kind of guy i weld a 250 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,750 lot of the things that you see floating 251 00:14:17,740 --> 00:14:22,660 around the boxes that you see up here 252 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:24,640 that have the projector on it I custom 253 00:14:22,660 --> 00:14:26,380 built all those myself painted them the 254 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,029 whole nine yards welded up the base for 255 00:14:26,380 --> 00:14:31,510 it yeah no no it's just something to do 256 00:14:28,029 --> 00:14:33,790 i guess to waste a lot of time but um we 257 00:14:31,510 --> 00:14:35,410 kind of have our own specialties i guess 258 00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:37,630 i would be considered a maker and a 259 00:14:35,410 --> 00:14:41,260 hacker to some sort i have other 260 00:14:37,630 --> 00:14:43,449 projects start work on every one of our 261 00:14:41,260 --> 00:14:45,189 little slides here now has vanderbilt 262 00:14:43,449 --> 00:14:46,540 university's logo in the bat grounded 263 00:14:45,190 --> 00:14:49,620 until they programmed that into the 264 00:14:46,540 --> 00:14:51,939 projector so i actually worked for a 265 00:14:49,620 --> 00:14:53,580 university in the south and i'm not 266 00:14:51,940 --> 00:15:00,090 really sure which one it is 267 00:14:53,580 --> 00:15:01,170 can't really tell you so if the 268 00:15:00,090 --> 00:15:03,060 consortium we have a lot of 269 00:15:01,170 --> 00:15:04,229 collaboration someone comes in is this 270 00:15:03,060 --> 00:15:06,869 man i really wanna learn how to weld 271 00:15:04,230 --> 00:15:08,220 well you know i fire up the welder we 272 00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:10,260 figure out how to really screw up a 273 00:15:08,220 --> 00:15:11,550 piece of metal i can come in and say you 274 00:15:10,260 --> 00:15:12,990 know hey i don't understand what the 275 00:15:11,550 --> 00:15:15,449 hell is going on with this can someone 276 00:15:12,990 --> 00:15:16,920 look at this code so it's really nice to 277 00:15:15,450 --> 00:15:19,830 be able to collaborate in that way 278 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,300 because honestly if it wasn't for that 279 00:15:19,830 --> 00:15:22,980 all you could do is google and look at a 280 00:15:21,300 --> 00:15:25,380 book it take a lot longer to get things 281 00:15:22,980 --> 00:15:29,430 done I'm kind of a visual guy point to 282 00:15:25,380 --> 00:15:32,270 it tell me what I'm doing so we kind of 283 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:35,099 see things a little bit differently um I 284 00:15:32,270 --> 00:15:38,910 have a project that I'm working on where 285 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:41,550 I am intercepting data at a large 286 00:15:38,910 --> 00:15:45,060 southern university that's coming in on 287 00:15:41,550 --> 00:15:48,380 us na on a single subnet and then I cut 288 00:15:45,060 --> 00:15:51,050 down that data and I'm looking for any 289 00:15:48,380 --> 00:15:55,380 probes anything it's a TCP connection 290 00:15:51,050 --> 00:15:57,959 from Russia Iraq China and Romania and 291 00:15:55,380 --> 00:16:00,660 oddly enough from those four countries i 292 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,440 get about thirty thousand hits where 293 00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:04,920 they're trying to make a connection 294 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:06,960 there the only trouble is with 30,000 295 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,270 bits of data it's really hard to 296 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,400 visualize what's going on so i've 297 00:16:09,270 --> 00:16:13,710 collected the data and discovered a lot 298 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,000 of patterns my problem now is I got to 299 00:16:13,710 --> 00:16:17,640 find someone who can help me actually 300 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,950 visualize that search for patterns 301 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,600 things of that nature and since I can't 302 00:16:19,950 --> 00:16:23,100 get ahold of Al Stroger to save my life 303 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,240 I can't say hey would you write 304 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:26,430 something for me that really does 305 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:29,130 something neat so he's a little bit out 306 00:16:26,430 --> 00:16:33,239 of pocket um we all kind of see things 307 00:16:29,130 --> 00:16:34,590 differently like I say I'm a materials 308 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,810 kind of guy when you say hey I want to 309 00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:38,610 do so and so a blank look will come 310 00:16:36,810 --> 00:16:40,380 across my face and I'm thinking my way 311 00:16:38,610 --> 00:16:43,890 through this is how we're going to make 312 00:16:40,380 --> 00:16:46,200 it work other guys like I keep using 313 00:16:43,890 --> 00:16:47,520 Arafat when he codes you know you say 314 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,130 something to him he looks at you like 315 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:53,910 dude you're doing it Ruby we time at 316 00:16:50,130 --> 00:16:57,050 Pearl Ruby do it in movie so um the way 317 00:16:53,910 --> 00:17:02,310 that we look at things in the world 318 00:16:57,050 --> 00:17:03,750 we're not I guess for a large part no 319 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:04,349 one would quite understand what we're 320 00:17:03,750 --> 00:17:06,809 doing here 321 00:17:04,349 --> 00:17:08,099 weekend you know you go back and you got 322 00:17:06,809 --> 00:17:10,049 somebody floating around the office and 323 00:17:08,099 --> 00:17:13,139 they say so what'd you do this weekend 324 00:17:10,049 --> 00:17:14,609 did you tell them you know my boss is 325 00:17:13,140 --> 00:17:16,679 hey you're taking time off for the 326 00:17:14,609 --> 00:17:18,659 weekend where you going I'm going to 327 00:17:16,679 --> 00:17:20,910 Atlanta to hang out with 120 of my 328 00:17:18,660 --> 00:17:23,910 favorite friends and party all weekend 329 00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:26,490 and talk computers and he's really you 330 00:17:23,910 --> 00:17:29,870 guys do that yeah yeah we do just you 331 00:17:26,490 --> 00:17:34,380 know I'm a plumber don't ask you know um 332 00:17:29,870 --> 00:17:38,510 so it's I think it's important that we 333 00:17:34,380 --> 00:17:41,580 not worry so much about what a hacker is 334 00:17:38,510 --> 00:17:44,700 what the the moniker is you know what 335 00:17:41,580 --> 00:17:48,210 I'm gray hat black hat I'm a blue hat 336 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:50,610 with Hilla print cuz any when Scott and 337 00:17:48,210 --> 00:17:55,080 take your head off you might know who 338 00:17:50,610 --> 00:17:58,860 that guy is so it's important that we 339 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:00,449 don't specifically search for a name to 340 00:17:58,860 --> 00:18:04,020 classify ourselves it's important that 341 00:18:00,450 --> 00:18:05,309 we kind of keep the spirit of what we do 342 00:18:04,020 --> 00:18:06,929 you know we're not going to be 343 00:18:05,309 --> 00:18:08,908 understood by everybody like a lot of us 344 00:18:06,929 --> 00:18:10,909 kind of like it that way I like being 345 00:18:08,909 --> 00:18:17,370 the weird guy that comes in the room and 346 00:18:10,909 --> 00:18:23,640 wears black all the time so thank you 347 00:18:17,370 --> 00:18:29,719 right jerk hey Mike on thank you so it's 348 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:33,299 good to be the king um so in summation 349 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:36,240 so anyone in the room were you a jock 350 00:18:33,299 --> 00:18:38,400 when you were in high school all right 351 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,720 kick the out if Billy Billy you get 352 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,270 in the kitchen should kick that you in 353 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,950 the parking lot of the way out so very 354 00:18:42,270 --> 00:18:46,260 few of us started out as jocks or the 355 00:18:43,950 --> 00:18:48,419 extremely popular crowd well the fun 356 00:18:46,260 --> 00:18:51,539 part about the way that things are going 357 00:18:48,419 --> 00:18:54,870 now is we're very important and as time 358 00:18:51,539 --> 00:18:56,070 goes on honestly we used to be the guys 359 00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:57,780 with the pocket protectors in the 360 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:59,549 basement everything and now guess what 361 00:18:57,780 --> 00:19:02,370 their companies just absolutely 362 00:18:59,549 --> 00:19:05,668 clambering that's it he who controls the 363 00:19:02,370 --> 00:19:08,699 data controls the world so I think it's 364 00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:11,280 very important that we spend a lot of 365 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:13,080 time there's a lot of would it be cool 366 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,690 if that are wonderful but it's also 367 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,639 important that we we spend some time 368 00:19:15,690 --> 00:19:21,269 figuring out what we need to do 369 00:19:17,639 --> 00:19:28,199 as a group to actually further what we 370 00:19:21,269 --> 00:19:30,389 do the year of do is you know now people 371 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,459 are looking to us other than just to fix 372 00:19:30,389 --> 00:19:34,619 their home computer it's important that 373 00:19:32,459 --> 00:19:37,619 we figure out what we're going to do to 374 00:19:34,619 --> 00:19:39,539 help society you know if you you're a 375 00:19:37,619 --> 00:19:41,968 member of InfraGard or something good 376 00:19:39,539 --> 00:19:43,529 feel like that um you know if you if 377 00:19:41,969 --> 00:19:45,479 you're able to sit down and help someone 378 00:19:43,529 --> 00:19:47,339 understand what an attack is like and 379 00:19:45,479 --> 00:19:50,190 what's going on and how they should fix 380 00:19:47,339 --> 00:19:52,589 their systems in their business and how 381 00:19:50,190 --> 00:19:53,849 you can make $125 an hour consulting 382 00:19:52,589 --> 00:19:55,950 doing that then you need to do that 383 00:19:53,849 --> 00:19:58,379 definitely but I think we should all 384 00:19:55,950 --> 00:20:01,129 kind of sit down and think what we can 385 00:19:58,379 --> 00:20:04,259 do to collaborate spread information 386 00:20:01,129 --> 00:20:06,599 kind of bring the new guys in in 387 00:20:04,259 --> 00:20:07,889 straight you got to find the new guys 388 00:20:06,599 --> 00:20:09,899 you got to keep them from getting into 389 00:20:07,889 --> 00:20:11,070 too much trouble and you got to find 390 00:20:09,899 --> 00:20:12,958 them that quarter million dollar rate of 391 00:20:11,070 --> 00:20:17,218 your job doing something goofy that 392 00:20:12,959 --> 00:20:18,929 they're really talented at so um we need 393 00:20:17,219 --> 00:20:22,440 to kind of concentrate on that the con 394 00:20:18,929 --> 00:20:25,409 that I run here is like I said not a 395 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,609 money maker but it's more a way for 396 00:20:25,409 --> 00:20:29,879 everyone to come together and have a 397 00:20:26,609 --> 00:20:32,218 good time but my goal is for you guys to 398 00:20:29,879 --> 00:20:34,559 get together okay maybe do a couple of 399 00:20:32,219 --> 00:20:36,599 shots together but to find someone who 400 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:38,969 does something that you need to have 401 00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:41,158 done or someone that you can teach what 402 00:20:38,969 --> 00:20:44,009 you do and share your skills and 403 00:20:41,159 --> 00:20:45,299 collaborate and kind of go from there if 404 00:20:44,009 --> 00:20:46,919 there's anything I can do to facilitate 405 00:20:45,299 --> 00:20:49,709 it if there's anything about the 406 00:20:46,919 --> 00:20:53,369 conference that i can do that you think 407 00:20:49,709 --> 00:20:54,809 would be a great fit or if you just want 408 00:20:53,369 --> 00:20:57,869 to tell me you know you think the con 409 00:20:54,809 --> 00:21:01,829 sucks you can send that to dev null at 410 00:20:57,869 --> 00:21:03,509 outer zone org uh if you do have 411 00:21:01,829 --> 00:21:05,489 comments and things of that ideas you'd 412 00:21:03,509 --> 00:21:08,429 like to do talks you'd like to do send 413 00:21:05,489 --> 00:21:10,079 it to skydog at Alderson org I promise I 414 00:21:08,429 --> 00:21:14,490 will actually respond to emails from now 415 00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:19,120 on out shut up 416 00:21:14,490 --> 00:21:24,760 yeah I got your shmoop I'm in trouble 417 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:27,010 for that so on that note i will be going 418 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,170 to crawl into the doghouse CP is going 419 00:21:27,010 --> 00:21:30,790 to come up and do his presentation 420 00:21:29,170 --> 00:21:32,470 ladies and gentlemen thank you for 421 00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:43,030 coming out I hope you enjoy the rest of 422 00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:45,100 the con so my entire can be summed 423 00:21:43,030 --> 00:21:46,330 up in two network diagram slides so I'm 424 00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:49,689 just going to kind of tell you the story 425 00:21:46,330 --> 00:21:51,879 of how it kind of came into existence as 426 00:21:49,690 --> 00:21:53,590 soon as I get this set up just to kind 427 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,090 of add my two cents of escada I was 428 00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:56,740 saying we need people ask you what you 429 00:21:55,090 --> 00:21:58,179 do or you know what your interests are 430 00:21:56,740 --> 00:21:59,650 do you tell them you're a hacker or do 431 00:21:58,180 --> 00:22:02,050 you cop out and tell them you're on the 432 00:21:59,650 --> 00:22:04,120 information security specialist I do 433 00:22:02,050 --> 00:22:11,980 network security so who calls themselves 434 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:15,550 a hacker and network security okay I was 435 00:22:11,980 --> 00:22:17,890 just curious I for one think that it's 436 00:22:15,550 --> 00:22:19,750 important that we're proud of the word 437 00:22:17,890 --> 00:22:21,790 hacker even though it's misconstrued in 438 00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:23,860 so many different ways I'm a hacker and 439 00:22:21,790 --> 00:22:26,280 I'm proud to be a hacker that's why you 440 00:22:23,860 --> 00:22:26,280 guys know that 441 00:22:34,650 --> 00:22:45,790 yeah I'm not gonna recover thank you all 442 00:22:42,940 --> 00:22:48,240 right so i did my my slides and ms paint 443 00:22:45,790 --> 00:22:48,240 on the plane 444 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:03,459 oh you can see that can bring the lights 445 00:22:58,870 --> 00:23:07,299 down a little bit maybe all right is 446 00:23:03,460 --> 00:23:13,750 that better just a little bit maybe no 447 00:23:07,299 --> 00:23:17,260 oh well you know project floodgate with 448 00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:19,419 badass slides I originally wanted a way 449 00:23:17,260 --> 00:23:21,960 that I could take my laptop or any 450 00:23:19,419 --> 00:23:24,700 computer any embedded device an iPhone 451 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,620 my Dreamcast anything that can connect 452 00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:28,690 to my network and i want to send all of 453 00:23:26,620 --> 00:23:30,399 this data through tor regardless of 454 00:23:28,690 --> 00:23:32,049 whether it has internal proxy settings 455 00:23:30,399 --> 00:23:33,549 that allow you to do this or even has 456 00:23:32,049 --> 00:23:35,260 proxy settings that you can trust you 457 00:23:33,549 --> 00:23:36,580 don't know if the device or the 458 00:23:35,260 --> 00:23:39,399 operating system is going to send phone 459 00:23:36,580 --> 00:23:41,980 home calls or update request via outside 460 00:23:39,399 --> 00:23:43,989 your proxy settings so initially I just 461 00:23:41,980 --> 00:23:46,710 wanted to send all data from any device 462 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:51,610 that was network accessible to tour and 463 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:53,260 become as anonymous as tour gets so like 464 00:23:51,610 --> 00:23:55,570 I said I'm going to kind of work through 465 00:23:53,260 --> 00:24:00,669 the process of how it expanded is in it 466 00:23:55,570 --> 00:24:03,460 as to what it is now so basic idea was 467 00:24:00,669 --> 00:24:05,470 will take a device and just set your own 468 00:24:03,460 --> 00:24:09,190 IP address you're on the subnet one and 469 00:24:05,470 --> 00:24:11,710 two 1689 for dot whatever non DHCP list 470 00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:14,020 you just customize it yourself and when 471 00:24:11,710 --> 00:24:16,809 the router gets that data it's just 472 00:24:14,020 --> 00:24:18,010 going to pass it on to another box on 473 00:24:16,809 --> 00:24:20,889 the network called the floodgate box 474 00:24:18,010 --> 00:24:22,390 well flood gate does right now is it 475 00:24:20,890 --> 00:24:24,730 takes all incoming connections and it 476 00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:27,820 uses IP tables to divvy up the TCP 477 00:24:24,730 --> 00:24:29,799 streams over multiple tour instances so 478 00:24:27,820 --> 00:24:32,470 floodgate can run anywhere between 1 and 479 00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:34,299 100 for instances depending on the 480 00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:36,220 hardware limitations you have we found 481 00:24:34,299 --> 00:24:37,658 that about 50 was a good was a good 482 00:24:36,220 --> 00:24:42,460 limit based on how many nodes that are 483 00:24:37,659 --> 00:24:46,539 in the Tor network which is about 1753 484 00:24:42,460 --> 00:24:47,919 somewhere in that range so I mean it was 485 00:24:46,539 --> 00:24:49,360 interesting you shouldn't send all data 486 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:51,010 that we have through multiple tour 487 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:53,979 instances you're not going to see an 488 00:24:51,010 --> 00:24:54,970 increase in overall speed where you're 489 00:24:53,980 --> 00:24:56,590 going to find is you kind of have a 490 00:24:54,970 --> 00:24:59,500 thicker pipe that you could do more 491 00:24:56,590 --> 00:25:01,629 devices on as opposed to all devices on 492 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:03,669 the network on that subnet being routed 493 00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:06,460 through what single tour instance it 494 00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:07,309 gets a load balanced over multiple tour 495 00:25:06,460 --> 00:25:09,620 instances 496 00:25:07,309 --> 00:25:11,509 so it's a little bit nicer to not have 497 00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:16,340 to waste your bandwidth with other 498 00:25:11,509 --> 00:25:19,789 clients on the network so that basically 499 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:21,320 is what it comes down to like I said it 500 00:25:19,789 --> 00:25:25,580 can pretty much just be summed up as 501 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:28,070 this what we then thought about is what 502 00:25:25,580 --> 00:25:30,649 what bit of software uses a bunch of 503 00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:34,809 individual TCP streams that don't have 504 00:25:30,649 --> 00:25:37,248 anything to do with each other Victorian 505 00:25:34,809 --> 00:25:39,499 no I don't hit BitTorrent and no I don't 506 00:25:37,249 --> 00:25:42,110 hate poor I just think it's beautiful to 507 00:25:39,499 --> 00:25:45,470 marry them together so what we entered 508 00:25:42,110 --> 00:25:47,959 were doing with something like this this 509 00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:50,480 works in very interesting ways because 510 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,070 the TCP streams that get routed over 511 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,629 each of the tour nodes randomly right 512 00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:56,149 now by a few tape iptables we're going 513 00:25:53,629 --> 00:25:57,969 to weighted load balancing later just as 514 00:25:56,149 --> 00:26:02,479 kind of it is what it is right now 515 00:25:57,970 --> 00:26:03,980 because of how bittorrent works you know 516 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,779 the TCP streams go out give divvied up 517 00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:07,879 to each of the tour networks and the 518 00:26:05,779 --> 00:26:09,830 tour exit nodes all have different IP 519 00:26:07,879 --> 00:26:12,740 addresses so all the exit nodes join the 520 00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:14,389 same swarm and the swarm now thinks that 521 00:26:12,740 --> 00:26:17,330 instead of seeing one new client it has 522 00:26:14,389 --> 00:26:19,340 50 new clients 50 peers so instead of 523 00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:21,769 allocating bandwidth and resources to 524 00:26:19,340 --> 00:26:24,408 send bits of data to a single client 525 00:26:21,769 --> 00:26:27,110 it's now sending data to 50 clients 526 00:26:24,409 --> 00:26:29,149 which all in the end route back to your 527 00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:31,610 client so theoretically you could get 528 00:26:29,149 --> 00:26:33,559 faster speeds over floodgate then you 529 00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:36,379 could be a single BitTorrent connection 530 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:38,119 on a regular internet connection in our 531 00:26:36,379 --> 00:26:43,309 test case we were downloading in a boom 532 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:45,379 to ISO at 2.4 megabytes per second which 533 00:26:43,309 --> 00:26:48,490 was kind of approaching the speed limit 534 00:26:45,379 --> 00:26:51,889 of my internet connection just as is and 535 00:26:48,490 --> 00:26:53,419 through flood gate we used 50 tour nodes 536 00:26:51,889 --> 00:26:56,178 and we found that we're getting about 537 00:26:53,419 --> 00:27:00,230 1.4 for 8 megabytes per second download 538 00:26:56,179 --> 00:27:02,090 completely over tour yes this is kind of 539 00:27:00,230 --> 00:27:04,039 shitty to do to tour and a bit torrent 540 00:27:02,090 --> 00:27:05,990 like I said I don't hate them I just 541 00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:07,460 think it's an interesting idea and I'd 542 00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:11,570 like to see where this could evolve and 543 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:15,230 maybe change yeah what's cool about that 544 00:27:11,570 --> 00:27:17,119 is I think BitTorrent already can tell 545 00:27:15,230 --> 00:27:17,630 when it gets redundant data and just 546 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,730 discard 547 00:27:17,630 --> 00:27:21,860 before it brings it back in also what 548 00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:24,620 we're doing what's its kind of doing is 549 00:27:21,860 --> 00:27:26,389 it's not broadcasting the same packets 550 00:27:24,620 --> 00:27:30,530 or so I'm just going to rambling right 551 00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:32,030 now I don't think we're gonna have a 552 00:27:30,530 --> 00:27:34,280 problem with duplicate data as is 553 00:27:32,030 --> 00:27:37,129 because the way the load balancing works 554 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,139 is it takes incoming tcp connection 555 00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:41,840 streams to to floodgate to the IP tables 556 00:27:39,140 --> 00:27:43,820 and it just randomly chooses a tour node 557 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,740 to send that TCP stream to so it's not 558 00:27:43,820 --> 00:27:47,090 breaking apart the stream it's still 559 00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:48,830 having it to the handshake and the 560 00:27:47,090 --> 00:27:51,949 little bit of data so in bittorrent 561 00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:53,600 tells the swarm hey I want data it just 562 00:27:51,950 --> 00:27:56,030 doesn't go over the same IP address it 563 00:27:53,600 --> 00:28:00,580 goes through excuse me goes through its 564 00:27:56,030 --> 00:28:00,580 its own kind of tour instance 565 00:28:06,350 --> 00:28:14,600 oh because there's because I think like 566 00:28:12,890 --> 00:28:16,039 I said I'm not a tour expert I'm not a 567 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,299 bit for an expert this is kind of a 568 00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:20,600 half-assed harebrained idea we threw 569 00:28:17,299 --> 00:28:22,570 together like i said i'm pretty sure 570 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:26,870 bittorrent will just discard duplicator 571 00:28:22,570 --> 00:28:28,520 as well as I don't think it's a big of 572 00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:30,620 an issue and I can't really relate why 573 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,289 but you come find me afterwards and we 574 00:28:30,620 --> 00:28:35,928 can talk about that just because I'm not 575 00:28:33,289 --> 00:28:44,950 good at talking in front of people sorry 576 00:28:35,929 --> 00:28:48,679 guys I have my water that's good water 577 00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:50,150 no tour will only do tcp/ip streams and 578 00:28:48,679 --> 00:28:52,820 what it does actually is it even strips 579 00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:54,650 of waste a lot of the IP headers and 580 00:28:52,820 --> 00:29:00,799 just maintains a lot of the core data 581 00:28:54,650 --> 00:29:04,240 that's in the TCP stream run of thing I 582 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:04,240 can't hear you speak up 583 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,680 the question was can the will this allow 584 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,169 us to make more than one connection to 585 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,060 the same cedar yes because of the way 586 00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:19,660 bitch horn allocates resources in the 587 00:29:16,060 --> 00:29:22,840 swarm inherently it's going to see each 588 00:29:19,660 --> 00:29:25,300 exit node as its own clients we has done 589 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:28,120 pier so like I said theoretically we 590 00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:29,680 could surpass the download limitations 591 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,580 that you get from only connecting from a 592 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:35,770 single client to the swarm using 50 exit 593 00:29:33,580 --> 00:29:37,090 nodes and this is 50 BitTorrent friendly 594 00:29:35,770 --> 00:29:39,760 exit nodes which is a different story 595 00:29:37,090 --> 00:29:44,139 entirely because they do a bt filtering 596 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:46,270 on ports by default the swarm now sees 597 00:29:44,140 --> 00:29:48,340 multiple clients which it thinks are 598 00:29:46,270 --> 00:29:50,139 individual clients in themselves but in 599 00:29:48,340 --> 00:29:55,209 reality they all route back to us over 600 00:29:50,140 --> 00:29:58,470 the Tor network I'm pretty sure I'm for 601 00:29:55,210 --> 00:30:01,240 getting some so just find me afterwards 602 00:29:58,470 --> 00:30:03,520 websites DC night Fernando org slash 603 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,220 project / floodgate you can download our 604 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,670 source code right now it's just a script 605 00:30:06,220 --> 00:30:11,320 that does all the iptables all the tour 606 00:30:09,670 --> 00:30:13,150 instances and just it's a lot ball for 607 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,480 you you just need to install Torre 608 00:30:13,150 --> 00:30:19,090 install iptables you can't read that 609 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:22,270 we're on DC dash 949 on f net my email 610 00:30:19,090 --> 00:30:25,240 CPA DC 949 org people who couldn't make 611 00:30:22,270 --> 00:30:27,400 it but we're involved jeff ball mr. 612 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:36,390 Gordon Dexter virus dr. Nichols and jolt 613 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:36,390 cola are there any more questions 614 00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:48,570 yeah it just kind of grew into the 615 00:30:47,250 --> 00:30:57,350 bittorrent so it's still really handy 616 00:30:48,570 --> 00:30:59,580 for regular I haven't found him 617 00:30:57,350 --> 00:31:00,990 explicitly but I mean when you really 618 00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:02,970 think about it there has to be something 619 00:31:00,990 --> 00:31:04,980 out there that I mean come on Microsoft 620 00:31:02,970 --> 00:31:06,240 for chrissake there's going to be 621 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:08,100 something out there any kind of embedded 622 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,960 devices because I have those embedded HD 623 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:11,549 gaming devices that you plug in I'm 624 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,110 pretty sure you can't do proxy settings 625 00:31:11,549 --> 00:31:14,850 so you wanted to reverse engineer that 626 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:16,889 but you didn't want to have it hit your 627 00:31:14,850 --> 00:31:24,799 home I pay you just do it over tour over 628 00:31:16,890 --> 00:31:27,330 the sub over the floodgate setup yeah 629 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:30,720 now nothing specifically came up like I 630 00:31:27,330 --> 00:31:32,100 said kind of like yeah I didn't find 631 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,450 anything but i'm not a bt expert on 632 00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,070 monitory expert this is just kind of an 633 00:31:33,450 --> 00:31:37,549 idea i had and it kind of manifested 634 00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:39,659 itself into a really interesting project 635 00:31:37,549 --> 00:31:41,520 like i said the source code is available 636 00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:45,000 at DC nine for nine at org slash 637 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:48,360 projects / floodgate if your interest 638 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,530 it's it's all in bash right now yeah the 639 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,229 whole thing runs in bash it just 640 00:31:49,530 --> 00:31:54,389 basically sets up I p tables the IP 641 00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:56,220 tables and it starts and stops it tore 642 00:31:54,390 --> 00:32:00,590 instances does all the all the routing 643 00:31:56,220 --> 00:32:03,120 stuff yes I'll put them on the website 644 00:32:00,590 --> 00:32:06,120 future improvements are going to be to 645 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,469 do weighted load balancing just because 646 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,120 right now it's just randomly choosing a 647 00:32:07,470 --> 00:32:10,440 tour connection so we don't really know 648 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,428 which porch catchers are being used to 649 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:17,309 well as well as we would like to glean 650 00:32:14,429 --> 00:32:20,130 BTW friendly exit nodes out of the tour 651 00:32:17,309 --> 00:32:21,660 system by setting up our own tracker and 652 00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:23,460 just connecting hundreds and hundreds of 653 00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:26,340 hundreds of times over tour and gleaning 654 00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:27,990 out the BT friendly ones and then 655 00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:30,649 specifying those exit nodes in our 656 00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:30,650 startup script 657 00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:35,430 it's all automatic right now like you 658 00:32:34,170 --> 00:32:38,370 just run the script and if you have it 659 00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:40,200 installed you're good you have sea tour 660 00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:44,489 and iptables installed that's all you 661 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:46,830 need to do oh I did forget one thing if 662 00:32:44,490 --> 00:32:50,100 you run the code yourself right now it's 663 00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:52,169 not set up to do the subnet routing so 664 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:54,240 on the network all you have to do is set 665 00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:58,220 the gateway to whatever the floodgate 666 00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:13,950 box is that's it and that so there we go 667 00:32:58,220 --> 00:33:16,280 thank you guys I couldn't tell you oh he 668 00:33:13,950 --> 00:33:16,280 ran off 669 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:48,350 hello I don't actually I wish now I wish 670 00:33:42,620 --> 00:33:55,809 that I had water in there let's see if 671 00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:55,809 this works how did you switch it over 672 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:06,399 it's beautiful all right hang on guys 673 00:34:07,090 --> 00:34:11,590 I actually made slides which makes me 674 00:34:09,489 --> 00:34:15,219 think that this talk might be longer 675 00:34:11,590 --> 00:34:17,170 than it should be I'm Madeline I'm also 676 00:34:15,219 --> 00:34:22,899 known as Kiki I'm also known as creative 677 00:34:17,170 --> 00:34:25,480 taboo I'm not an infosec tech person I 678 00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:28,900 am a media design person i am the pr 679 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:34,120 director for free side or PR Czar's 680 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:35,410 ducky so fondly calls me so I when we 681 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,659 were talking earlier and I've been 682 00:34:35,409 --> 00:34:40,420 talking to people here from various 683 00:34:37,659 --> 00:34:43,330 hackerspaces um one of the things that's 684 00:34:40,420 --> 00:34:46,630 been coming up a lot is how to advertise 685 00:34:43,330 --> 00:34:48,639 the space how whether or not i guess the 686 00:34:46,630 --> 00:34:52,090 resounding debate whether or not media 687 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:53,739 is good for you so i'm going to talk a 688 00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:57,330 little bit about that um my disclaimer 689 00:34:53,739 --> 00:35:00,220 is that I'm not anything to do with PR I 690 00:34:57,330 --> 00:35:01,930 like it I'm good at it I know people 691 00:35:00,220 --> 00:35:06,009 that are professionals and they help me 692 00:35:01,930 --> 00:35:07,839 out and so I do this stuff for free side 693 00:35:06,010 --> 00:35:11,640 it tends to work pretty well I don't 694 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:15,430 guarantee it if it doesn't work for you 695 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,990 um so I'm gonna skip over the what's a 696 00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:19,600 hackerspace I think we've done a pretty 697 00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:22,479 good job and the earlier talks about 698 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,850 that I know a majority of you know your 699 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:29,440 local hackerspaces are parts of them all 700 00:35:24,850 --> 00:35:31,660 of that jazz so in regards to media in 701 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,640 regards to hackerspaces I think the 702 00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:36,940 biggest issue that people come across is 703 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,170 goal setting and it always starts and 704 00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:39,130 you tend to hear these stories of a 705 00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:41,770 bunch of people getting together and 706 00:35:39,130 --> 00:35:43,960 saying hey you technology are you hacker 707 00:35:41,770 --> 00:35:46,570 I'm hacker Oh awesome let's start a 708 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,280 group and it goes from there and you 709 00:35:46,570 --> 00:35:50,650 start dealing with monetary you start 710 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,600 dealing with nonprofit status and it 711 00:35:50,650 --> 00:35:56,260 gets messy and traumatic and people cry 712 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:59,220 and it hurts and by the end of it you 713 00:35:56,260 --> 00:36:01,990 have a neat little organization sort of 714 00:35:59,220 --> 00:36:04,689 what tends to happen is you start 715 00:36:01,990 --> 00:36:07,029 getting together you lose sight of the 716 00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:10,000 fact that it is a non-profit and that 717 00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:12,340 the goals of a hackerspace and why we do 718 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,320 it and the fact is is yes it's fun and 719 00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:15,880 we all like to get together and just 720 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,450 break things take things apart build 721 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,780 things but it also is about community 722 00:36:19,450 --> 00:36:23,470 bill 723 00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:25,810 it's about education and as scary as it 724 00:36:23,470 --> 00:36:28,089 might be the best and easiest way to do 725 00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:30,990 that is to start dealing with people in 726 00:36:28,090 --> 00:36:34,660 your community and usually through media 727 00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:36,850 so one of the things that I've talked a 728 00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:38,200 lot to some PR directors whether 729 00:36:36,850 --> 00:36:41,770 officially or non official in other 730 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:43,149 spaces and there comes a time usually 731 00:36:41,770 --> 00:36:45,550 about once a year when there's time to 732 00:36:43,150 --> 00:36:49,420 reevaluate what the goals are why you're 733 00:36:45,550 --> 00:36:51,760 doing what you're doing so these are the 734 00:36:49,420 --> 00:36:54,100 questions that we build is you know we 735 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,750 have to rethink every time what are you 736 00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:59,770 trying to accomplish is it community 737 00:36:55,750 --> 00:37:01,300 education and is it doing startups you 738 00:36:59,770 --> 00:37:03,850 know what message what are you trying to 739 00:37:01,300 --> 00:37:07,000 convey there's a lot of hacker spaces 740 00:37:03,850 --> 00:37:08,080 that are perfectly fine being with each 741 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,670 other and being in their own little 742 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,890 bubble and not really wanting to bring 743 00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:13,510 new people in and teaching each other 744 00:37:11,890 --> 00:37:15,190 and not really wanting to do anything 745 00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:17,920 with the outside world and that's just 746 00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:19,990 fine but that needs to be part of 747 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,840 whatever you're trying to accomplish and 748 00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:25,359 as the goals one of the big things that 749 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:29,110 gets a little sticky is short-term and 750 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:31,420 long-term goals what happens is what 751 00:37:29,110 --> 00:37:33,160 turns into we focus on the short-term 752 00:37:31,420 --> 00:37:35,230 goals like hey I came with this really 753 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,180 cool project let's build it and you 754 00:37:35,230 --> 00:37:38,230 forget that a year down the line that 755 00:37:37,180 --> 00:37:40,089 there's other things that need to get 756 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:41,740 done otherwise you're going to build 757 00:37:40,090 --> 00:37:42,700 this really cool project and you're 758 00:37:41,740 --> 00:37:45,790 going to have absolutely no 759 00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:47,529 infrastructure whatsoever to show it to 760 00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:50,350 people and to build on it and to let 761 00:37:47,530 --> 00:37:52,270 other people other spaces the media 762 00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:54,339 whatever see it say hey that's cool you 763 00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:56,860 what else we could do and so there's 764 00:37:54,340 --> 00:37:58,750 this little gap in time and so the 765 00:37:56,860 --> 00:38:00,460 important thing is whenever as an 766 00:37:58,750 --> 00:38:03,490 individual when you're working on 767 00:38:00,460 --> 00:38:06,370 projects and as a group you need to 768 00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:08,169 think okay I'm starting this now what am 769 00:38:06,370 --> 00:38:10,359 I going to do later with this can I 770 00:38:08,170 --> 00:38:12,640 publish it somewhere can I have another 771 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:16,390 space work on it would you know this is 772 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:18,940 info sharing here the other little thing 773 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:20,890 matching strategy to budget we talked 774 00:38:18,940 --> 00:38:24,460 about this a lot and free said when we 775 00:38:20,890 --> 00:38:26,730 want to do big events and suddenly we 776 00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:28,990 realize that we have no money for it 777 00:38:26,730 --> 00:38:31,390 there are ways to do it for cheap and 778 00:38:28,990 --> 00:38:32,669 free word this is the perfect crowd to 779 00:38:31,390 --> 00:38:36,270 be talking about doing things for 780 00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:37,530 cheap and free just remember that we're 781 00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:39,690 all so you're gonna have a nice nasty 782 00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:42,210 little surprise in your budget leader um 783 00:38:39,690 --> 00:38:44,069 and talking what we talked about earlier 784 00:38:42,210 --> 00:38:47,400 the media is not out to get you 785 00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:49,859 generally I was listening to the talk 786 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,740 earlier and realize that yeah you do 787 00:38:49,859 --> 00:38:55,078 actually have to be kind of wary we've 788 00:38:52,740 --> 00:38:57,450 had a couple people approach us 789 00:38:55,079 --> 00:39:00,359 reporters and it's been very obvious 790 00:38:57,450 --> 00:39:03,419 that what they wanted was you know that 791 00:39:00,359 --> 00:39:06,720 stereotypical hacker in the basement and 792 00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:09,150 you know doing really sketch things stay 793 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:12,379 away from that it's really hard to pick 794 00:39:09,150 --> 00:39:14,970 up the pieces but point being is 795 00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:16,920 hackerspaces are this big bubble and 796 00:39:14,970 --> 00:39:18,799 it's really cool and people talk about 797 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:22,589 it all the time and they want to know 798 00:39:18,799 --> 00:39:25,980 and the only way that they're going to 799 00:39:22,589 --> 00:39:27,509 know about it is if you tell them or 800 00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:29,520 they tell someone else most of what 801 00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:31,140 we've gotten has been through contacts 802 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,150 of one people saying hey I just did this 803 00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:34,379 article and they see another article and 804 00:39:33,150 --> 00:39:35,819 they want to write an article that's how 805 00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:37,349 we get our members to when we had a 806 00:39:35,819 --> 00:39:39,750 creative loafing article come out at 807 00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:44,010 freeside the amount of people on our 808 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:48,839 mailing list doubled in about a week so 809 00:39:44,010 --> 00:39:50,430 a little goes a long way and again one 810 00:39:48,839 --> 00:39:51,900 of those things is why why do you think 811 00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:55,410 people want to cover it is because it is 812 00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:57,420 a non-for-profit usually and it's about 813 00:39:55,410 --> 00:39:59,460 education and community outreach and 814 00:39:57,420 --> 00:40:02,640 people generally care about that just as 815 00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:05,700 they would for anything else um media 816 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,618 sources just generally surprisingly 817 00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:09,390 hackerspaces org does not get as much 818 00:40:07,619 --> 00:40:11,160 attention as it deserves there are 819 00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:13,828 plenty of places for you to advertise 820 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:16,410 your space if you have advanced if 821 00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:18,059 you're doing the hackathon if you just 822 00:40:16,410 --> 00:40:21,000 want to put your information up there it 823 00:40:18,059 --> 00:40:25,710 is the best and easiest way for people 824 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:27,210 to contact you hackaday make crafts 825 00:40:25,710 --> 00:40:30,480 surprisingly has gotten into a lot more 826 00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:33,540 technology-based two things they will 827 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:36,900 either seek you out or you can find you 828 00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:39,170 can submit to them interestingly f I'm 829 00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:41,880 big on blogs anyone that has free said 830 00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:44,550 noticed that like I her ass everyone 831 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:48,750 the blog mostly because I'm going on 832 00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:50,820 there's the more lately what the reason 833 00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:55,020 that I am so bothersome about the blog 834 00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:57,120 is because the sources like hackaday and 835 00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:59,310 make and craft will hunt down the 836 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:02,009 biggest spaces that have the most blog 837 00:40:59,310 --> 00:41:03,750 hits and they will pull your articles 838 00:41:02,010 --> 00:41:06,030 and they will pull your information in 839 00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:08,760 your projects and they will post them on 840 00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:12,270 their site so if you blog they will find 841 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:16,580 you it works that way local papers 842 00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:18,750 magazines podcasts op-eds surprisingly 843 00:41:16,580 --> 00:41:21,090 anything keep track of what's going on 844 00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:22,590 in your town and if there's something 845 00:41:21,090 --> 00:41:25,650 that relates to technology or what 846 00:41:22,590 --> 00:41:27,930 you're doing it does not hurt to just 847 00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:30,510 paying someone to send out a press 848 00:41:27,930 --> 00:41:32,850 release to send makers local did a 849 00:41:30,510 --> 00:41:35,640 wonderful press release for the 850 00:41:32,850 --> 00:41:37,650 hackathon that is I think still on 851 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,049 hackerspaces org it's a great example 852 00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:45,090 little thing keep it out there submit it 853 00:41:40,050 --> 00:41:48,060 share it goes a long way the other big 854 00:41:45,090 --> 00:41:50,220 thing that we do is our schwag um people 855 00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:51,509 are good on this it goes a long way we 856 00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:53,490 have like thousands of these stickers 857 00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:55,590 I've been handing them out and leaving 858 00:41:53,490 --> 00:41:56,970 them places all over in Atlanta and it's 859 00:41:55,590 --> 00:41:58,740 really great when you're driving and you 860 00:41:56,970 --> 00:42:00,060 find one on someone's car you have no 861 00:41:58,740 --> 00:42:01,080 idea who they are and they have no idea 862 00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:03,860 who you are but they think what you are 863 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,910 school things like the water bottle 864 00:42:03,860 --> 00:42:08,820 anything that's free and cheap people 865 00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:10,830 will take the t-shirts people like 866 00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:14,580 t-shirts I wear my t-shirt Luke wear 867 00:42:10,830 --> 00:42:16,770 t-shirts member projects people I know a 868 00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:18,950 group of public station one was looking 869 00:42:16,770 --> 00:42:21,120 about doing heat not pumping station one 870 00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:25,620 one of the spaces that I can't recall 871 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:27,690 actually does 3d printed logos to give 872 00:42:25,620 --> 00:42:31,830 out to people which the 3d printer was 873 00:42:27,690 --> 00:42:34,380 built by one of their members um dan dan 874 00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:36,150 the man from earlier has suggested home 875 00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:40,410 brewing beer and giving it to the faces 876 00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:43,920 so coffee if you roast coffee the term 877 00:42:40,410 --> 00:42:46,770 we use at a curfew anything like that is 878 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,120 really really beneficial and the 879 00:42:46,770 --> 00:42:50,190 important thing really and I'm probably 880 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,910 gonna just stop here is involving 881 00:42:50,190 --> 00:42:54,090 members and involving other spaces 882 00:42:52,910 --> 00:42:56,549 you're 883 00:42:54,090 --> 00:42:59,520 numbers are viable for information they 884 00:42:56,550 --> 00:43:01,530 know people they know other spaces if 885 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,030 you give them the information you give 886 00:43:01,530 --> 00:43:05,310 them a press kit you give little blurbs 887 00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:08,850 a little go a long way give them access 888 00:43:05,310 --> 00:43:12,270 to your blog let them do their thing and 889 00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:15,120 yes I'm psyched about blog classes and 890 00:43:12,270 --> 00:43:17,759 events the more you do them and the more 891 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,410 you repeat them it's its stability for 892 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,940 the for when people look at it and they 893 00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:23,339 see that something's going on every week 894 00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:26,310 every month it sounds its credibility 895 00:43:23,340 --> 00:43:28,590 and they want to attend that and then 896 00:43:26,310 --> 00:43:31,170 involving other spaces there's been a 897 00:43:28,590 --> 00:43:34,160 lot of this with conventions now and 898 00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:38,340 just people talking and wanting to do 899 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:40,109 communication via email IRC groups just 900 00:43:38,340 --> 00:43:41,580 visiting other spaces talking to them 901 00:43:40,110 --> 00:43:43,710 seeing what they're working on the 902 00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:45,450 synchronous hackathon has been fantastic 903 00:43:43,710 --> 00:43:47,970 in getting other spaces working together 904 00:43:45,450 --> 00:43:50,609 and there's all sorts of collaboration 905 00:43:47,970 --> 00:43:52,080 on projects and competitions I think 906 00:43:50,610 --> 00:43:54,330 that's particularly fun to do 907 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,900 competitions with other faces on 908 00:43:54,330 --> 00:44:00,210 projects on time whatever it feels like 909 00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:01,830 so and that is what I'm doing if you 910 00:44:00,210 --> 00:44:03,840 guys have any questions if you are 911 00:44:01,830 --> 00:44:08,330 starting a hackerspace if you are in one 912 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,330 you want to talk to me I'm around 913 00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:19,620 is it live now all right hello everybody 914 00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:21,660 this is gonna be a quick talk about a 915 00:45:19,620 --> 00:45:24,089 project I tend to take a little bit more 916 00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:25,529 time to talk about but uh let's go do 917 00:45:24,090 --> 00:45:26,850 this and second part of my first 918 00:45:25,530 --> 00:45:29,790 presentation but I'd end up not doing 919 00:45:26,850 --> 00:45:31,380 that anyway uh basically little 920 00:45:29,790 --> 00:45:33,000 microcontroller project I'm working on 921 00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:35,190 my name's Aidan Quinn sure enough about 922 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,200 me have we gotten food all that in the 923 00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:39,480 previous talk a little bit story 924 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,830 shmoocon 2010 i was giving something 925 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,720 called a phantom keystroke or as a 926 00:45:40,830 --> 00:45:44,160 speaker's gift that's not looking to 927 00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:45,750 sing and what does is it toggles on and 928 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,250 off caps lock moves and mouse around us 929 00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:49,080 cred like that just to be an annoying to 930 00:45:47,250 --> 00:45:51,090 the person who has it plugged in it's 931 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,290 basically a practical joke but I started 932 00:45:51,090 --> 00:45:53,520 thinking about it what would happen if 933 00:45:52,290 --> 00:45:54,930 it were tryin I'm tryin to start with my 934 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,870 best buy co machines man in personation 935 00:45:54,930 --> 00:45:59,190 right now I thought about what had 936 00:45:57,870 --> 00:46:00,359 happen if you could program it it's also 937 00:45:59,190 --> 00:46:02,190 cool things might be able to do this 938 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,470 will gadget so I started looking around 939 00:46:02,190 --> 00:46:06,420 saying hook in this well while I was 940 00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:08,640 there I happened to see Darren kitchen 941 00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:10,410 from hak5 someplace i was like i don't 942 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,390 need unlock the you three thumb drive i 943 00:46:10,410 --> 00:46:14,220 was like you know what you feel some 944 00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:16,799 drugs auto button is turned off by 945 00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:18,359 default when so many machines now it'd 946 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,980 be good at way if you can do like a usb 947 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,960 hid device human interface devices you 948 00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:23,430 just plug in automatically throws the 949 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,840 keystrokes you want and you'll get 950 00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:27,480 around those problems where autorun is 951 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,800 turned off well he told me well me and 952 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,470 Robert are kind of working on a project 953 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,820 similar to that well I start looking 954 00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:34,410 around like okay cool i'm looking 955 00:46:32,820 --> 00:46:35,580 forward with the guy coming out but i 956 00:46:34,410 --> 00:46:36,960 got impatient and start looking around 957 00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:38,700 for a product that would kind of do it 958 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,850 and I found something called Kinsey if 959 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:42,930 you want something if you want to wait 960 00:46:41,850 --> 00:46:44,220 for the product to come out it's come a 961 00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:46,680 little bit more professional than 962 00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:48,810 stuffing about the show the USB rubber 963 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:52,620 ducky will eventually be up on hak5 org 964 00:46:48,810 --> 00:46:56,070 and Robin wood of digit inch of fame and 965 00:46:52,620 --> 00:46:58,140 curse situ and all that stuff is doing 966 00:46:56,070 --> 00:47:00,330 the development on the coating on that 967 00:46:58,140 --> 00:47:02,520 but if you want just play around there 968 00:47:00,330 --> 00:47:04,049 the idea and you're not wanting to go 969 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:07,560 professional if you ready to willing to 970 00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:09,330 go ugly early as they say then I think 971 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,950 this way of going about creating 972 00:47:09,330 --> 00:47:13,080 yourself a little USB HID device might 973 00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:15,600 just work first of all a few notes I'm 974 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,950 new to microcontrollers so bear with me 975 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,540 if I get some things wrong i'm just 976 00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:20,790 getting new into the hole Audrey no and 977 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:22,620 a be ours and the pic chips and so forth 978 00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:24,870 I also suck at soldering is just going 979 00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:26,210 to become you know all right as i like 980 00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:27,470 to say i like the eye 981 00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:29,359 soldering skills is like an epileptic 982 00:47:27,470 --> 00:47:32,450 alcoholic with the DTS sobbing with an 983 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:33,830 aluminum baseball bat I also apparently 984 00:47:32,450 --> 00:47:36,200 stuck at using rotary tools I just 985 00:47:33,830 --> 00:47:38,150 generally suck but I had an idea I 986 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,020 wanted to create this thing all right 987 00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:41,240 why would you want to program a 988 00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:42,680 keystroke device you know I first got to 989 00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:45,560 explain the most people is exactly what 990 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,000 this might be useful well likely you can 991 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,710 type a lot faster than you can type I 992 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,690 actually has a question on paulette com 993 00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:52,369 mailing list recently if you were the 994 00:47:50,690 --> 00:47:54,050 flash and you could type it and human 995 00:47:52,369 --> 00:47:56,230 speeds and you had like a few seconds on 996 00:47:54,050 --> 00:47:58,520 someone's machine what would you type in 997 00:47:56,230 --> 00:48:00,859 books even if you have sweet usually 998 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,210 autorun is turned off which it seems to 999 00:48:00,859 --> 00:48:04,940 be the fall to think in vista and Ford 1000 00:48:02,210 --> 00:48:09,080 isn't it I mean is off of removable 1001 00:48:04,940 --> 00:48:12,260 storage I flip they turned it off in 1002 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:14,420 Windows 7 by default I'll have to check 1003 00:48:12,260 --> 00:48:17,630 later on we was if you if you install 1004 00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:19,040 something like VMware it has attenzione 1005 00:48:17,630 --> 00:48:19,760 that off a lot of people also just 1006 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,859 turned off because of the security 1007 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,000 features it's also likely to draw less 1008 00:48:21,859 --> 00:48:24,710 attention and sing down in front of a 1009 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,150 terminal would like you know the person 1010 00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:27,500 turns ahead for a second you plug in 1011 00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:28,820 this USB device you pull it back out 1012 00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:31,880 it's a way issued the commands you one 1013 00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:33,440 of the command prompt you can also be 1014 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,670 set to go off on a timer if you want so 1015 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,630 if you know someone whose importance can 1016 00:48:34,670 --> 00:48:38,510 be logged into a machine in eight hours 1017 00:48:35,630 --> 00:48:40,790 you plug it in and set to go off eight 1018 00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:42,260 hours actually you plug it in so an 1019 00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:44,630 admin is not in it logged in now but 1020 00:48:42,260 --> 00:48:46,609 they login in eight hours boom Bob's 1021 00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:50,180 your uncle you now have an account with 1022 00:48:46,609 --> 00:48:51,170 some other process fired off and does 1023 00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:53,839 something on the network with their 1024 00:48:51,170 --> 00:48:56,060 credentials yippee just use your 1025 00:48:53,839 --> 00:48:57,650 imagination all right sort of four 1026 00:48:56,060 --> 00:49:00,440 commands that issue at a use I mentioned 1027 00:48:57,650 --> 00:49:01,790 before run any old program copy files to 1028 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,200 your thumb drive I have I can show you 1029 00:49:01,790 --> 00:49:05,420 later on how to actually make it find 1030 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,529 your fun side by volume label because 1031 00:49:05,420 --> 00:49:08,540 when you plug a thumb drive in you don't 1032 00:49:06,530 --> 00:49:09,830 necessarily that's going to get but 1033 00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:11,750 those ways of finding it out if you know 1034 00:49:09,830 --> 00:49:14,330 the volume label which we do because we 1035 00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:15,470 set it all up also you can make it go to 1036 00:49:14,330 --> 00:49:17,210 a certain website like you know this 1037 00:49:15,470 --> 00:49:18,980 person uses soon bank account or you 1038 00:49:17,210 --> 00:49:20,630 know to use Facebook and they probably 1039 00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:22,520 cook e stored for it you can have it 1040 00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:24,830 automatically a certain time go out and 1041 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,170 go to Facebook and make a post or do 1042 00:49:24,830 --> 00:49:28,279 something silly all right so what's the 1043 00:49:27,170 --> 00:49:30,020 name I had to think of a name for this 1044 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,270 particular project because you know name 1045 00:49:30,020 --> 00:49:34,609 is important in marketing isn't it so 1046 00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:37,160 first thing Mickey pwned because the 1047 00:49:34,609 --> 00:49:38,359 first thing I put it in so I'd have the 1048 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,060 space and Bobby this is gonna be 1049 00:49:38,359 --> 00:49:41,250 contacted 1050 00:49:39,060 --> 00:49:42,390 smaller is an Altoids can't 10 but you 1051 00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:44,940 know I thought like the ADA might you 1052 00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:47,279 know sue me for trademark infringement 1053 00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:48,870 owner the next thing I thought about was 1054 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,220 a dipstick because I just trying to make 1055 00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:52,589 a smaller version of it where I started 1056 00:49:50,220 --> 00:49:55,049 on a dip and I basically put this all in 1057 00:49:52,590 --> 00:49:57,000 a nicer casing something like this make 1058 00:49:55,050 --> 00:49:58,260 most fungi sighs but I start thinking 1059 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,910 about that dipstick this one to see what 1060 00:49:58,260 --> 00:50:01,020 the thing is so then I thought well how 1061 00:49:59,910 --> 00:50:02,910 about something a little bit more 1062 00:50:01,020 --> 00:50:05,130 descriptive like programmable hid USB 1063 00:50:02,910 --> 00:50:06,390 keyboard mouse dongle but that's a 1064 00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:09,710 mouthful so let's just see if we can get 1065 00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:14,069 a decent acronym out of that mmm okay 1066 00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:16,310 yes I think we got an acronym what is so 1067 00:50:14,070 --> 00:50:21,060 that's what I'm going with currently uh 1068 00:50:16,310 --> 00:50:22,440 okay we have some names but uh but not 1069 00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:23,700 how to build one so I did some googling 1070 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,470 around for something that would let me 1071 00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:26,730 do this found some limited items with 1072 00:50:25,470 --> 00:50:29,089 easiest thing I found to do this on is 1073 00:50:26,730 --> 00:50:35,190 something called a tinsy now 10 C is a 1074 00:50:29,090 --> 00:50:37,350 1.2 inch by 0.7 inch device AVR 1075 00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:39,840 processor running at 16 megahertz scat 1076 00:50:37,350 --> 00:50:42,120 like 32 k of on-board storage for your 1077 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,530 programs doesn't talk much but you can 1078 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,450 do a whole lot of that with that on a 1079 00:50:43,530 --> 00:50:47,040 microcontroller program over the mini 1080 00:50:45,450 --> 00:50:48,870 USB port that's on it so it's but 1081 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,250 simpler program cross between eighteen 1082 00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:52,440 to twenty seven dollars like this little 1083 00:50:50,250 --> 00:50:54,330 one was just eighteen dollars burnt out 1084 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,910 some leads done and I'm anyone's project 1085 00:50:54,330 --> 00:50:59,340 but it still works um you better i got 1086 00:50:56,910 --> 00:51:01,440 cold solder joints a USB HID supports 1087 00:50:59,340 --> 00:51:04,320 the big thing and you can get it all 1088 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,420 from a pj RC calm I I have a little 1089 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,340 simple wiring diagram here for the one I 1090 00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:10,020 created it's in the box I'll explain 1091 00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:11,310 what the photoresist of this for in a 1092 00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:14,070 second you have analog and digital 1093 00:51:11,310 --> 00:51:16,170 inputs on air the digital inputs I just 1094 00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:17,790 have set for switches all go into a 1095 00:51:16,170 --> 00:51:19,470 common ground so basically goes to 1096 00:51:17,790 --> 00:51:21,300 common ground is considered on in the 1097 00:51:19,470 --> 00:51:23,459 particular case of this and I have it 1098 00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:25,980 all set up using some code to execute 1099 00:51:23,460 --> 00:51:27,000 something when I'm ready and I explained 1100 00:51:25,980 --> 00:51:28,800 that photo resistor in a stick like i 1101 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,990 said here's a really simple bit of code 1102 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:34,320 which is probably too small to see that 1103 00:51:30,990 --> 00:51:37,259 uh just tells the LED to come on just as 1104 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,690 a diagnostic and then sends keystrokes 1105 00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:41,460 in this particular key in this specific 1106 00:51:39,690 --> 00:51:43,830 case all it does is bring up notepad and 1107 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:47,040 says Aidan was here all this code and so 1108 00:51:43,830 --> 00:51:48,990 forth will be on my website when i get 1109 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,550 back home from the con a little bit more 1110 00:51:48,990 --> 00:51:52,020 complicated example would be something 1111 00:51:50,550 --> 00:51:53,609 along the lines of the modern dipstick 1112 00:51:52,020 --> 00:51:56,589 here 1113 00:51:53,609 --> 00:52:00,130 hear what I've done and where if you 1114 00:51:56,589 --> 00:52:02,680 have an 8 a selection of dip switch 1115 00:52:00,130 --> 00:52:04,510 that's impossible of 256 combinations 1116 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,160 you could do I'm only using 5 1117 00:52:04,510 --> 00:52:07,420 combinations because I bunch out some of 1118 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,558 my leads you might wanna buy this thing 1119 00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:12,579 for me later on so I can buy a new one 1120 00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:13,720 for doing research let me know I had to 1121 00:52:12,579 --> 00:52:15,760 turn on pull-up resistors they have 1122 00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:18,308 built-in pull-up resistors inside of the 1123 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,720 the chip which is nice so I'd turn those 1124 00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:21,819 on to make them automatically go high 1125 00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:24,578 and basically I check if anything goes 1126 00:52:21,819 --> 00:52:25,750 low if something goes low and by the way 1127 00:52:24,579 --> 00:52:28,089 I'm doing this in their Adreno 1128 00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:29,619 programming environment because see see 1129 00:52:28,089 --> 00:52:31,960 you can do it all and see but it's gonna 1130 00:52:29,619 --> 00:52:34,180 be a little bit more it's gonna be a 1131 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,220 little bit more details that you'll have 1132 00:52:34,180 --> 00:52:37,868 to bother with to hear the details are 1133 00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:40,118 more hidden from you alright so 1134 00:52:37,869 --> 00:52:42,160 basically this one but command bar bring 1135 00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:44,680 up notepad Aiden was here this one right 1136 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,029 here does a ctrl alt delete and I have 1137 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,348 all sorts of different commands are the 1138 00:52:46,029 --> 00:52:50,430 one for actually finding a thumb drive 1139 00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:54,819 is right here use a form command and 1140 00:52:50,430 --> 00:52:56,799 wmic and I can find my particular thumb 1141 00:52:54,819 --> 00:53:00,880 drive by its name and Bob's your uncle 1142 00:52:56,799 --> 00:53:04,109 I'm in let's see but actually 1143 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:08,369 demonstrate this thing real quick I 1144 00:53:04,109 --> 00:53:08,369 thought I had more readers on me 1145 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,339 eventually I'm gonna have this all 1146 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,750 packaged up in something much nicer but 1147 00:53:12,339 --> 00:53:15,730 like i said i'm having some bad luck 1148 00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:17,859 with dribbling the things out that i 1149 00:53:15,730 --> 00:53:21,849 need the dremel out but let's test our 1150 00:53:17,859 --> 00:53:23,920 few toes functions let's bring that up 1151 00:53:21,849 --> 00:53:25,930 first time your chest out is just the a 1152 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,190 dhryn was here and basically the idea is 1153 00:53:25,930 --> 00:53:28,390 I can set the dip switch what I want to 1154 00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:30,130 do plug it in real quick pull it back 1155 00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:32,379 out remember these things i'm showing 1156 00:53:30,130 --> 00:53:34,539 use timers as if yet but right no reason 1157 00:53:32,380 --> 00:53:36,190 they can't use timers number four is 1158 00:53:34,539 --> 00:53:37,569 control too late hit enter i'm not going 1159 00:53:36,190 --> 00:53:40,299 to show that off because of time reasons 1160 00:53:37,569 --> 00:53:41,890 obvious number six is just moves the 1161 00:53:40,299 --> 00:53:44,788 mouse around and clicks which is just 1162 00:53:41,890 --> 00:53:47,788 annoying and walk me to my next door 1163 00:53:44,789 --> 00:53:47,789 screen 1164 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:56,510 also you should turn it off before you 1165 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:58,009 try to go continue I number seven opens 1166 00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:59,420 up a website and this could be like the 1167 00:53:58,010 --> 00:54:01,010 Facebook example in this case I just 1168 00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:02,720 have autumn and go to my website but 1169 00:54:01,010 --> 00:54:04,400 since I don't actually have an internet 1170 00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:07,310 connection right now as you can see this 1171 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,930 will be maddening in some cases did you 1172 00:54:07,310 --> 00:54:16,580 see a thumb drive me pop I brought up 1173 00:54:08,930 --> 00:54:19,520 here Oh bingo and the final one I have 1174 00:54:16,580 --> 00:54:21,440 set up on there is you'll find a thumb 1175 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,450 drive by its volume name in this case I 1176 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:28,250 had this thing called my thumb so that 1177 00:54:23,450 --> 00:54:30,799 whenever i plug this in boom issues that 1178 00:54:28,250 --> 00:54:32,240 full command poof WIC and it runs this 1179 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,250 and it can run any other thing that you 1180 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:36,169 want obviously you want the time delay 1181 00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:38,330 to be less than that I just turned it 1182 00:54:36,170 --> 00:54:41,510 very low for the sake of showing it off 1183 00:54:38,330 --> 00:54:43,930 here and it can find a script knows what 1184 00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:47,680 scripts running from start copying files 1185 00:54:43,930 --> 00:54:51,620 bring up calculator that's the classic 1186 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:53,480 notepad regedit so on so forth but I 1187 00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:55,940 think you get the general idea another 1188 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,990 thing that I've come up with was and 1189 00:54:55,940 --> 00:55:01,760 this is the reason i had that photo 1190 00:54:56,990 --> 00:55:05,209 resistor set up is uh oh that's why I 1191 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:08,810 had that one the reason I had the 1192 00:55:05,210 --> 00:55:10,190 photoresistor setup is so that you can 1193 00:55:08,810 --> 00:55:15,650 hook a sense of up to it you have a 1194 00:55:10,190 --> 00:55:19,120 analog input in this case let's hope 1195 00:55:15,650 --> 00:55:19,120 this work and then the wires came loose 1196 00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:24,050 so you can have it set to go off as soon 1197 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,240 as someone turns on the lights in the 1198 00:55:24,050 --> 00:55:27,560 office or five minutes after they turn 1199 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:31,209 off light to know turn on the lights in 1200 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:34,210 the office whatever you care to do and 1201 00:55:31,210 --> 00:55:34,210 see 1202 00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:39,570 now I have way too much crap open 1203 00:55:37,099 --> 00:55:41,099 luckily I know about shift f5 that's 1204 00:55:39,570 --> 00:55:42,030 basically the internals of it no max I'm 1205 00:55:41,099 --> 00:55:44,820 looking on a smaller one I got the 1206 00:55:42,030 --> 00:55:46,740 altoids tin for some stuff it's booked 1207 00:55:44,820 --> 00:55:48,150 in progress otherwise I have embed a hub 1208 00:55:46,740 --> 00:55:50,160 and spread of storage so you have it all 1209 00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:51,630 in one nice unit because then you could 1210 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,710 just have one thumb drive satisfying the 1211 00:55:51,630 --> 00:55:54,330 head storage on it and you can 1212 00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:56,250 automatically do what you need to do 1213 00:55:54,330 --> 00:55:57,930 leave around like a fun drive package 1214 00:55:56,250 --> 00:55:59,940 and hoping some unsuspecting user will 1215 00:55:57,930 --> 00:56:01,379 pick it up and use it people do that 1216 00:55:59,940 --> 00:56:03,119 with usually thumb drive so I no reason 1217 00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:04,940 they wouldnt do it this Trojan hardware 1218 00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:08,550 give someone a cool glow in the dark 1219 00:56:04,940 --> 00:56:10,349 rubber toy or give them some hard drive 1220 00:56:08,550 --> 00:56:11,730 or why say it's a wireless device and 1221 00:56:10,349 --> 00:56:13,560 have it wake up after a certain amount 1222 00:56:11,730 --> 00:56:14,670 of time issue these commands but you 1223 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,799 give to them as a present they just 1224 00:56:14,670 --> 00:56:18,440 think it's a regular USB toy but it has 1225 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:22,050 this kind of hidden functionality in it 1226 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:25,200 and if you have do some kind of cover-up 1227 00:56:22,050 --> 00:56:26,760 thing I mean no one suspects when I 1228 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,480 computer squeaks out a little bit they 1229 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,310 just think it's one of those things 1230 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:32,460 people don't necessarily pay attention 1231 00:56:29,310 --> 00:56:34,799 also if I were doing BIOS boot password 1232 00:56:32,460 --> 00:56:36,089 boot forcing but I think Scouts right on 1233 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,950 that one that's probably if you have 1234 00:56:36,089 --> 00:56:39,660 that much time to access in front of the 1235 00:56:37,950 --> 00:56:42,540 Machine better Dolphus whip in the drive 1236 00:56:39,660 --> 00:56:44,190 out all right few links for more 1237 00:56:42,540 --> 00:56:45,300 information eventually hacked files can 1238 00:56:44,190 --> 00:56:46,380 be having something out like this I'm 1239 00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:49,200 gonna have some of my web page before 1240 00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:51,270 too awful long tin see product pages out 1241 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,310 there and the code will all be out there 1242 00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:54,960 open source on my website before too 1243 00:56:53,310 --> 00:56:57,029 awful long by the way you can also set 1244 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,490 up the vendor ID and the product ID i 1245 00:56:57,030 --> 00:57:02,250 set mine to be like zero six six six and 1246 00:56:59,490 --> 00:57:05,009 13 13 and the name of the product was 1247 00:57:02,250 --> 00:57:06,660 like Cthulhu keyboard and mouse events 1248 00:57:05,010 --> 00:57:08,160 which i talked about earlier and i would 1249 00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:11,480 say any questions but it with me later 1250 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,480 because we had to get the next person up 1251 00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:27,030 I come up talk to me in a bit if he 1252 00:57:25,830 --> 00:57:38,970 wants to physically see the stuff later 1253 00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:41,270 I got it all here yeah I want to over 1254 00:57:38,970 --> 00:57:41,270 that one 1255 00:59:20,570 --> 00:59:55,440 1024 x 768 yeah we should introduce 1256 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:58,740 ourselves is everyone looking at our 1257 00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:04,619 floppy sticks hello is everyone looking 1258 00:59:58,740 --> 01:00:07,410 at our floppy stinks okay well we should 1259 01:00:04,619 --> 01:00:11,790 do some quick introductions I'm sporos 1260 01:00:07,410 --> 01:00:14,730 i'm nadia and okay Casey and we're gonna 1261 01:00:11,790 --> 01:00:17,250 get to talk about yeah yeah we're 1262 01:00:14,730 --> 01:00:20,339 talking about guys come on get 1263 01:00:17,250 --> 01:00:22,260 with it get with it okay so as you all 1264 01:00:20,339 --> 01:00:24,330 know there was a film set last night 1265 01:00:22,260 --> 01:00:25,980 where was a film getting run and we 1266 01:00:24,330 --> 01:00:27,450 actually got to go on the set we got to 1267 01:00:25,980 --> 01:00:29,250 take a little tour we got to see 1268 01:00:27,450 --> 01:00:31,470 everything like floppy sticks like 1269 01:00:29,250 --> 01:00:33,000 floppy sticks the grips took us in they 1270 01:00:31,470 --> 01:00:34,770 showed us around and we're going to tell 1271 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,980 you how they came to trust us and love 1272 01:00:34,770 --> 01:00:39,210 us so last night I'm sure there was a 1273 01:00:37,980 --> 01:00:41,849 few of you that were in the group that 1274 01:00:39,210 --> 01:00:44,970 decided to go out and see if we could 1275 01:00:41,849 --> 01:00:47,970 mess with the crew and our little group 1276 01:00:44,970 --> 01:00:49,618 of three decided to go separately and it 1277 01:00:47,970 --> 01:00:52,500 actually worked for us unlike the rest 1278 01:00:49,619 --> 01:00:55,560 of you yeah who kind of got kicked off 1279 01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:58,109 which brings us to our point one when we 1280 01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:00,029 go and you're about to sneak somewhere 1281 01:00:58,109 --> 01:01:03,420 or your way somewhere you have 1282 01:01:00,030 --> 01:01:06,240 to know when to ditch your friends so 1283 01:01:03,420 --> 01:01:09,720 let's say your friends are coming along 1284 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:12,270 and they're being obnoxious are you are 1285 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:17,098 these people with you we don't know what 1286 01:01:12,270 --> 01:01:19,650 maybe maybe probably not obably not yeah 1287 01:01:17,099 --> 01:01:22,050 how do we get there how we got to be 1288 01:01:19,650 --> 01:01:23,820 with the griffs okay we were walking by 1289 01:01:22,050 --> 01:01:26,190 we were trying to go straight to the set 1290 01:01:23,820 --> 01:01:28,740 security guards like hell no you can't 1291 01:01:26,190 --> 01:01:31,140 go to the set so we started walking away 1292 01:01:28,740 --> 01:01:33,990 what we do everyone pretty much 1293 01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:35,819 the same generally speaking society as a 1294 01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:37,529 whole I'm sure all of you have taken a 1295 01:01:35,820 --> 01:01:39,450 sociology class we all kind of have the 1296 01:01:37,530 --> 01:01:42,210 same basic principles what you want to 1297 01:01:39,450 --> 01:01:45,000 do is you aim for somebody's quirks we 1298 01:01:42,210 --> 01:01:47,580 saw a grip dancing what did we do dance 1299 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:53,970 with him we danced with him that grip 1300 01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:59,279 thought we were cool as so what's 1301 01:01:53,970 --> 01:02:02,549 up yeah oh yeah if they want to bang you 1302 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:04,980 it helps too is there any question as to 1303 01:02:02,550 --> 01:02:09,690 how cool I am because if there is we can 1304 01:02:04,980 --> 01:02:11,340 take this outside so we're in we 1305 01:02:09,690 --> 01:02:12,900 rejected our friends properly and 1306 01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:16,200 because of that we got to see some 1307 01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:18,090 pretty cool like oh yeah and the 1308 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,620 minivan here show them the minivan we're 1309 01:02:18,090 --> 01:02:22,410 actually proving to you that we actually 1310 01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:31,259 did you that's just in case you did 1311 01:02:22,410 --> 01:02:33,839 doubt so there we go this is us oh gosh 1312 01:02:31,260 --> 01:02:35,520 this is like two in the morning if you 1313 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,230 see there's a guy hanging from if you 1314 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,330 see really close I don't know how you 1315 01:02:37,230 --> 01:02:42,660 can see how there's a guy hanging from 1316 01:02:39,330 --> 01:02:45,750 the minivan melee after this looking at 1317 01:02:42,660 --> 01:02:48,210 the grips I want my turn now I want to 1318 01:02:45,750 --> 01:02:50,100 ride on the freaking minivan of course 1319 01:02:48,210 --> 01:02:52,170 you're alive hahaha all you need to 1320 01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:56,430 stick them how many people know what 1321 01:02:52,170 --> 01:03:00,180 stickam is okay two of you did you know 1322 01:02:56,430 --> 01:03:02,549 what stickam is you did I know but I 1323 01:03:00,180 --> 01:03:04,529 wanted to write on the freaking ban so 1324 01:03:02,550 --> 01:03:06,090 we go up to the front because people 1325 01:03:04,530 --> 01:03:08,190 have seen us talking to the grips for a 1326 01:03:06,090 --> 01:03:11,190 while so half of them think that we're 1327 01:03:08,190 --> 01:03:14,880 now grips and we saw a guy with a 1328 01:03:11,190 --> 01:03:17,070 headset on what are we you we happen to 1329 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,020 say we say to each other man i wish i 1330 01:03:17,070 --> 01:03:21,270 could give some stickum yeah look over 1331 01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:23,759 the guy hey where's some stickum well 1332 01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:25,440 there's there's some extra cans of 77 1333 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,420 over there okay we got our word 1334 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:30,150 association stick them it's something 1335 01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:33,410 that sticks your hands to a minivan it's 1336 01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:37,710 in a can and it has something to do with 1337 01:03:33,410 --> 01:03:39,700 77 this may or may not have come off the 1338 01:03:37,710 --> 01:03:42,670 set if it is video 1339 01:03:39,700 --> 01:03:45,730 this is being videotaped it probably 1340 01:03:42,670 --> 01:03:47,470 didn't come from the set so anyway in 1341 01:03:45,730 --> 01:03:49,359 cleaned you we may or may not have 1342 01:03:47,470 --> 01:03:51,430 grabbed one of the Kansas stickam and I 1343 01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:53,440 may or may not have said here put this 1344 01:03:51,430 --> 01:03:54,700 in your pocket and he may or may not 1345 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,260 have been holding this for a while 1346 01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:58,540 because he didn't know how to put it in 1347 01:03:56,260 --> 01:04:01,900 the pocket before giving it to let's say 1348 01:03:58,540 --> 01:04:06,820 KC hypothetically where he then put it 1349 01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:11,140 in his pocket during all of this we got 1350 01:04:06,820 --> 01:04:13,390 in the way we definitely got in the way 1351 01:04:11,140 --> 01:04:15,759 we noticed that they were moving all of 1352 01:04:13,390 --> 01:04:17,500 the equipment the director's chairs and 1353 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,540 everything out of entrance to the hotel 1354 01:04:17,500 --> 01:04:20,680 where they had been sitting and we were 1355 01:04:19,540 --> 01:04:22,420 thinking they were just packing up 1356 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,828 because the movie was over little did we 1357 01:04:22,420 --> 01:04:26,260 know they were moving them so that they 1358 01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:29,290 could film in that location so we're 1359 01:04:26,260 --> 01:04:32,410 just standing around awkwardly holding 1360 01:04:29,290 --> 01:04:37,570 the Sekhem wondering okay what do we do 1361 01:04:32,410 --> 01:04:41,049 somebody comes up no no no they're just 1362 01:04:37,570 --> 01:04:42,790 guys guys get inside now and so we're 1363 01:04:41,050 --> 01:04:43,900 inside and they're like oh we're sorry 1364 01:04:42,790 --> 01:04:45,369 they were just getting they were very 1365 01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:47,500 polite to us they were very apologetic 1366 01:04:45,369 --> 01:04:48,910 it's just we're sorry guys we just have 1367 01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:50,230 to get you out of the way for a second 1368 01:04:48,910 --> 01:04:52,868 because you know we're shooting right 1369 01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:55,510 now they're very sweet to us they had 1370 01:04:52,869 --> 01:05:00,660 good food inside as well yeah and five 1371 01:04:55,510 --> 01:05:00,660 hour energy drinks all for the taking 1372 01:05:01,410 --> 01:05:08,259 they may or may not have been taken so 1373 01:05:05,369 --> 01:05:11,349 we go around an actress goes over to KC 1374 01:05:08,260 --> 01:05:15,180 is like whoa she's like I'm glad we wrap 1375 01:05:11,349 --> 01:05:18,880 today I'm like sure yeah good job guys 1376 01:05:15,180 --> 01:05:20,649 okay so we got just get a nice and we 1377 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:23,589 view of the comfy and we could show them 1378 01:05:20,650 --> 01:05:28,300 the comfy in comfy and suites which I 1379 01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:30,069 would i would love oh I think Humphrey 1380 01:05:28,300 --> 01:05:31,839 murder Oh comfy night in yeah this is 1381 01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:33,880 when we went in a chilled with the 1382 01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:37,930 extras after they they were like oh you 1383 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:41,890 guys come come back out now really yeah 1384 01:05:37,930 --> 01:05:43,540 good job everyone that's a wrap so then 1385 01:05:41,890 --> 01:05:47,470 we decided to hang out with our friends 1386 01:05:43,540 --> 01:05:49,540 the grips the new grips and because we 1387 01:05:47,470 --> 01:05:51,689 were now part of the gang we actually 1388 01:05:49,540 --> 01:05:55,859 got to go up in the truck with them 1389 01:05:51,690 --> 01:05:57,750 so getting in the truck was a lot of fun 1390 01:05:55,859 --> 01:06:00,779 one of the security guys ran up as we're 1391 01:05:57,750 --> 01:06:02,970 climbing into the truck and he says 1392 01:06:00,780 --> 01:06:05,250 y'all can't go up there that's that's 1393 01:06:02,970 --> 01:06:07,020 just for people working on the set one 1394 01:06:05,250 --> 01:06:15,150 of the grips good no no it's okay 1395 01:06:07,020 --> 01:06:17,460 they're cool yeah no but we do know that 1396 01:06:15,150 --> 01:06:19,349 i think tomorrow they'll be at the 1397 01:06:17,460 --> 01:06:22,490 applebees in sewanee if anybody wants to 1398 01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:26,130 run into ya definitely ask them we said 1399 01:06:22,490 --> 01:06:27,660 if hypothetically and he was confused a 1400 01:06:26,130 --> 01:06:31,079 little bit by the word hypothetically 1401 01:06:27,660 --> 01:06:32,460 but if hypothetically we were to spend 1402 01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:34,920 the night in the truck where would we 1403 01:06:32,460 --> 01:06:36,599 wake up in the morning he said he pulls 1404 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:41,390 out a piece of paper from his pocket he 1405 01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:45,839 says the applebees in sewanee okay 1406 01:06:41,390 --> 01:06:47,520 awesome so this corolla pulls up then is 1407 01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:49,140 like oh I'm sorry guys I'll get out of 1408 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:53,009 your way in a second they're being very 1409 01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:55,470 sweet but very nice to us and um this 1410 01:06:53,010 --> 01:06:58,770 whole time uh what was the phrase you 1411 01:06:55,470 --> 01:07:00,598 are using a lot we're used to it it's 1412 01:06:58,770 --> 01:07:04,980 like they kept apologizing to us for 1413 01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:07,200 things and stuff like that yeah we're 1414 01:07:04,980 --> 01:07:09,300 used to it and so this one guy he was 1415 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:12,509 talking to us and we told him we are 1416 01:07:09,300 --> 01:07:14,640 hackers with the hacker con he thought 1417 01:07:12,510 --> 01:07:16,500 we were bullshitting him he thought 1418 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,910 these genuinely thought that we were 1419 01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:20,010 bullshitting about being hackers and 1420 01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:25,440 that we were grips just messing with him 1421 01:07:20,010 --> 01:07:26,910 it was um one of the one of the 1422 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,890 grimssons going around to the different 1423 01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:30,420 grips giving them hugs shaking hands 1424 01:07:28,890 --> 01:07:32,578 saying yeah it's good work and with you 1425 01:07:30,420 --> 01:07:35,190 I'll see y'all around stuff he turns to 1426 01:07:32,579 --> 01:07:38,790 me and gets this confused to look on his 1427 01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:41,810 face I think you're not who are you and 1428 01:07:38,790 --> 01:07:41,810 just walks would 1429 01:07:41,870 --> 01:07:46,470 and a lot of these concepts you can 1430 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,390 apply towards other things like sneaking 1431 01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:51,779 into concerts I know I've snuck into a 1432 01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:54,000 couple concerts before I I got um one of 1433 01:07:51,780 --> 01:07:55,860 the guys from flogging molly once to 1434 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,050 give me a solo performance on his 1435 01:07:55,860 --> 01:07:59,970 squeeze box just by going up to him and 1436 01:07:58,050 --> 01:08:02,790 saying hey can you play something for me 1437 01:07:59,970 --> 01:08:05,850 it's all about not being insecure 1438 01:08:02,790 --> 01:08:07,560 blending in and oh you can't look too 1439 01:08:05,850 --> 01:08:09,990 nice you have to look just sketch enough 1440 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:12,029 it really helps with the shaggy beard 1441 01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:13,890 the weird colored hair and the multiple 1442 01:08:12,030 --> 01:08:15,840 piercings you put the three of us 1443 01:08:13,890 --> 01:08:18,240 together they're like you know these are 1444 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,859 the kind of people we would hire they 1445 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:24,479 were basically like a bunch of carnies 1446 01:08:19,859 --> 01:08:27,930 so big about such carnage yeah they even 1447 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:29,009 did really cool we could go with this so 1448 01:08:27,930 --> 01:08:32,820 if you have the drunken Haggard look 1449 01:08:29,010 --> 01:08:34,260 you're in and as you probably could tell 1450 01:08:32,819 --> 01:08:36,059 from that picture of me on the truck I 1451 01:08:34,260 --> 01:08:44,850 was probably still a little drunk at 1452 01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:46,500 that point rip fun right on that hole 1453 01:08:44,850 --> 01:08:54,960 right in the hall the floppy sticks go 1454 01:08:46,500 --> 01:08:56,520 right in the hole very carefully and as 1455 01:08:54,960 --> 01:09:00,660 you can see we spent a whole lot of time 1456 01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:05,370 on this presentation yes so any 1457 01:09:00,660 --> 01:09:07,019 questions comments or concerns if the 1458 01:09:05,370 --> 01:09:09,660 movie is going to be called Hall Pass 1459 01:09:07,020 --> 01:09:11,700 it's starring owen wilson Alyssa Milano 1460 01:09:09,660 --> 01:09:15,870 and Christina Applegate and it's being 1461 01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:18,149 produced by Warner Brothers no you can 1462 01:09:15,870 --> 01:09:20,309 actually go to the IMDb database and 1463 01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:22,200 even even though we're not yeah via the 1464 01:09:20,310 --> 01:09:24,960 grip our main grip buddy his name was 1465 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,519 Keith Carrie Carrie Carrie yeah we can 1466 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,200 put faces to half the people in that 1467 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,900 list because we shook hands with them 1468 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:34,160 danced with them God yeah like that some 1469 01:09:30,899 --> 01:09:34,160 of them helped me off the truck 1470 01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:51,630 I don't sign anything yeah maybe in the 1471 01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:54,390 part where it says wannabes we will be 1472 01:09:51,630 --> 01:10:00,260 in the wannabes section apparently we're 1473 01:09:54,390 --> 01:10:00,260 over we're over enjoy your next