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collecting and preserving um historic

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artifacts of the computers that were

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before now

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becomes more and more interesting

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because the people that could actually

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operate them are

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disappearing

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um

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what it takes to put build up a museum

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how to operate it how to finance it how

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to

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make it happen

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um is something that our next speaker is

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going to talk about probably i would

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assume from what i've seen so please

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give a very warm welcome to beth van aka

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thank you

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so i i don't know if i'm going to walk

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so maybe i'll walk or maybe i don't know

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yet uh yeah as i said as my introduction

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i'm my name is bart and i'm the founder

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of the home computer museum

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we're based in helmand in the

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netherlands and uh we have actually

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mission

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so we stayed at a mission for ourselves

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it's on the screens right now and it's

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not this one is flickering but

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uh preserve and share the history of the

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home computer uh for and with current

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and future generations

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that's what our mission is which means

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we have a lot of computers

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so let's see if this works does this

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work that doesn't work

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okay i have to walk

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so how it all started

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i said i'm bart

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and i'm a collector

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and this message is approved by my

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therapist i can now freely talk about it

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that i am a collector

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well actually

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as you can see on the pictures

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this is how my garage looked back in

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2016.

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no if a car didn't fit at all

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i used i'm a drummer so

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i created my garage was used to be a

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studio i insulated and everything

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but

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it ended up in 2016 that my drum set was

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permanently permanently in my car

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because it didn't fit in my garage

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anymore

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actually um

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i even had

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computers stuffed in my wife's walk-in

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closets so it was crazy how much

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computers i had

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at this moment i don't call myself a

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collector

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for the simple reason

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a museum director cannot be

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a collector

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a collector is doing nothing then

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collecting and a museum director should

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do something else than collecting at

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least in my opinion

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so

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as said in 2016

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i got the idea of a computer museum

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and the reason i got the idea is because

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i visited two museums one in england and

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one in the netherlands

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both museums had the problem it was no

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interaction at all

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meaning that the computers were off or

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not working or and a computer i mean

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it's just an object it's

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not supposed to be nice i guess there

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are computers that really are supposed

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to be nice but most computers are not

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supposed to be nice

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they're objects to work with

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so why present them in a way that

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they're not used to i mean

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computers should be working right that's

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my opinion

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i didn't see any stories

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i didn't have a limited information

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about a computer but other than that

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there were no stories why is this

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computer made who were the people using

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that was that was what i found

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interesting about a computer i mean

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computer is just a thing with plastic

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and metal and all that stuff that's in a

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computer

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but more interesting is the story behind

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the computer why is a computer made why

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who were the people using those

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computers and i missed that all in the

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museums i visited

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also i found in one museum

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i won't call it name but it's in england

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i found misinformation

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i mean if you see an amiga 1200 and the

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sign says amiga 500 you do something

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wrong

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if you see attendee trs-80 and it says

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created in 1979

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that's also wrong it's 1977.

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and i know that as a collector

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people who are not collectors and people

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who are not very deeply interested in

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computers or know about the history of

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computers go to a museum and see this

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information and assume a museum is right

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and that's really bad

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i actually from the same museum i got a

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book which is even worse they actually

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printed a book very expensive book and

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there's information inside which is

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there's an amiga thousand

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stated all information about an amiga

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thousands and they printed an amiga 500

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i mean how hard is that to correct the

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the right computer

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so that has to be changed in my opinion

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as a collector i came to these museums

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and was like

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this has to be changed

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so first thing i did was try to

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collaborate

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i tried to collaborate with the museum

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in the netherlands

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to say okay i have this

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you have don't have information it's

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you don't have the stories can i help

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you can i help you in any way

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to

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give you the information or to make it

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nice to make it a visible museum that's

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not only for collectors like like me or

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maybe people here but also for for my

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wife

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she should enjoy it as well

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um i tried to but

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it was no use i couldn't he didn't want

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to at all he's i i yeah i don't like

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saying it that much but i think he's a

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hoarder

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it's all his and it's not he's not able

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to to share his information

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so that didn't work out

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and i wanted one thing to do something

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that actually matters and help people

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there's a little bit of history about me

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i have a sister who is who has autism

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and it was discovered on a

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pretty late age he was 20 and then it

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was discovered that she was she had

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autism

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and before that before that age he was

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just a heart learning child that's how

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it called back then

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so in 20 years i had experience with one

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somebody with autism

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without any label on it without a

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sticker that says you have autism

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it was discovered

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i had a girlfriend as he studied

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psychology

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and i was really interested because i

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all my life i was helping my sister so

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when it was discovered and my girlfriend

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at that time was studying

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psychology i think i thought i should do

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that too

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it was my thing however i was studying

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if my technical information so studying

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computer stuff

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and i figured okay i should finish this

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first before i do something else

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i think i'm smart so what i did was just

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read all the books from my girlfriend

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try i have a little bit of a head start

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so i did that

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but yeah i didn't do that at all the

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reason is the relation ended and my

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girlfriend at that time

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she changed a lot and apparently if you

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study psychology the first two years of

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finding your own problems and try to fix

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she never returned from that so instead

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of finishing her study she actually

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in a closed

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she's now fine again i guess i don't

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have much contact with her but that was

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also one of the reasons

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maybe i shouldn't do that i was happy

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with my life at the time so yeah don't

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try to you know poke in and

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try to fix me because i was fine

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so yeah

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however i became a system administrator

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got into linux i actually did security

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for a while as well

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but i ended up with voiceover ip

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and in my work i found a lot of people

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doing exactly the same as my sister was

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having a form of autism

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that a lot of managers a lot of

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companies don't know how to act with how

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respond to those people it's a lot of

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communication it's only about

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communication

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um so in in i

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accidentally

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tried to be in between a short middleman

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without i was a system administrator but

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i try to be the middleman i try to help

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those people

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to have this miscommunication fixed

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as i say i speak i speak fluently autism

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because i have 20 years of experience in

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that

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so actually helped a lot of people

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staying in the company

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instead of you know calling in sick

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not being on time anymore

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not doing their job and eventually lose

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their jobs

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i i kept a lot of people from that and

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i'm pretty proud of that

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um

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so yeah this was i wanted to do that as

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well when i started with the museum i

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wanted to help people and

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apparently in the i.t i couldn't do that

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so that was also one of the reasons i

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started the museum

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reason

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my wife asked me

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as i said i had my the walking closet of

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my wife was stuffed with computers and

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she didn't like that anymore

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i'm also i'm i'm i used to be a musician

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i'm still a musician uh playing in bands

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and all kind of stuff

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and also doing business

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so i tried to make a company from a band

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so i was just doing the strange things

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like being a bookings agency and being a

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band and making it a company so my wife

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was used to me being away for like 75

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mostly every weekend i was away with

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bands and i quit with that because

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children

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yeah and then i suddenly was home and my

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wife would have yeah you have a bunch of

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computers in the garage i had 35 back

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then you have a bunch of computers you

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go to all these fairs and you go to the

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meetings and gatherings of old computers

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why don't you do anything with that

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because i was used to do you know making

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companies

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not that successful but i was making

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companies so yeah my wife was one of the

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the causes as well to create this museum

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so yeah that

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that was the plan

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let's make a museum

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because why not

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i mean

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i was here and nobody else was doing

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what i was thinking of so okay let's do

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that

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so but

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a museum is a terrible business plan

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i mean i don't know if there are any

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people from companies in here but or any

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managers directors or anything founders

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but a museum is a terrible business plan

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it depends on external money

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i mean every

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company

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that is

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relying on external money is not a good

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company especially if it's only one

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i worked at a company that had one big

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customer and that customer was saying

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maybe we should shop for another one

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yeah that was a problem

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uh i don't want that and i see a lot of

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museums

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completely relying on external subsidy

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on external money money they don't

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make their own and

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i don't think that's a good idea because

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if you have external money that means

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somebody else is making decision if they

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give you money and what if they decide

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something else

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what if they decide okay no we're not

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doing that anymore so let's do something

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else and then you suddenly have no money

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and you are relying on it so your

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company goes down

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now

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it's always non-profit

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which is not a problem but most people

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think if it's non-profit it doesn't it

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means no revenue

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and that's wrong

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a museum is a company so it should have

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revenue in my opinion

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it bets a good will goodwill of people

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volunteers you name it it depends on

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people trying to help you

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which i i loved i don't say you

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shouldn't but it is one of the facts

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and most museums it's not a business

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model it's like okay we have subsidy we

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ask for subsidy we ask for money we ask

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for funding

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and we just you know put a lot of stuff

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in make it nice make information

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and that's it

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and we'll keep it going as long as the

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money flows in but

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there's no business models no retainable

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business model in that

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so

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so i wrote a business plan because it

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was a terrible idea

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that's how i am so this is actually a

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screenshot of my business model

365
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of my laptop of this one but

366
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i made a photo of my i don't i don't yes

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so the business plan

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what version 1.0

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and i can tell you it's still 1.0 we

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haven't changed

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it should be an interactive museum

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computer should be on working they are

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tools to be

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used so museums are working plus

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if a computer is working

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it will stay alive

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everybody here knows that if you keep a

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system off for a long long time the

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batteries will die

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and eventually batteries will leak

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capacitors will die

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and leak

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hard disks will fail especially the

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rotating ones they will fail

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rubber will just you know completely dis

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dismantle and and

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meaning that it can't be read anymore it

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can be used to to read data

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so

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interactive means computers should be on

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computer should be working meaning the

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life will be prolonged

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simple as that all electronics should be

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on because it makes their life longer

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we should be independent i don't want to

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be dependent on anything

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i don't want to be dependent on money

398
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external but also i don't want to be

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dependent on me

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because

401
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i will die eventually

402
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not planning to but yeah something

403
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happens and i will die

404
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and if i die should the museum then

405
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dissolve that's weird right so now we

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should continue so we should have

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something independent of as that as well

408
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i want to help people with autism

409
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one of the main reasons i started i

410
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wanted to help people

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i wanted to have good storytelling

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people should have a good story to to

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walk through have a good story

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to

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to read and have all the information

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i'll do a lot of research as well

417
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find the information but is this

418
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information we can find is that correct

419
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information or is it just bogus

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quite recent example

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one of the museums

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stated on june 5 this year that apple

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existed for

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the apple now the commodore pet

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was released

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45 years now 45 years ago yeah something

427
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like that the commodore pet was 45 years

428
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ago on june 5th

429
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was 1977 the commodore pet was released

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according to them

431
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but

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if you did a little bit of research you

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know it's wrong

434
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because the apple ii came out on june

435
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5th the commodore pet came out in

436
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october that year so

437
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quite a shame

438
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we should have future proof i've seen a

439
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lot of museums fall down

440
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,759
doing you know a museum is is is dying

441
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people uh there are museums that that do

442
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things that

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nobody is using anymore and nobody is is

444
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you

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is actively remembering

446
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obviously a castle yeah it's not that it

447
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will dissolve suddenly but yeah it

448
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should be future-proof it should be able

449
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to continue for at least 100 years

450
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by itself

451
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not depending on external money et

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cetera et cetera

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and we have a clear focus because

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calling it a computer museum is quite

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broad

456
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right you need the big ibm 360 and as400

457
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and you need a lot of building for that

458
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a lot of space especially if you want to

459
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have it interactive i don't

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you need the sort of power supply that

461
00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,119
you have here over in this entire camp

462
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it's not fun plus people i don't i don't

463
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think people really remember working

464
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with an as400

465
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yeah some of them

466
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so i had a clear focus and i wanted to

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have a museum about the home computer

468
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computer that people used at home

469
00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:25,679
there wasn't any

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at least not in europe

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so

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i came up with a business

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plan

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consisting of

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three pillars

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as i call it

477
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the first pillar

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is collection

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so we have a collection part

480
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showing everything that uh we can do

481
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anything with the collection uh

482
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collecting itself obviously showing it

483
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going to fairs going to

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mch

485
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care is helping people

486
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helping people with autism helping

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people with the distance to the labor

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market because we broaden it a little

489
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bit in the years but

490
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care is

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helping people just helping people going

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back to work

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and commercial

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we also have a commercial

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branch

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and commercial meaning we do services

497
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because

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where we can do in the museum

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uh think of uh data recovery

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reading old media

501
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something like that nobody yeah

502
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who can read the five and a quarter inch

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here

504
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yay

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good zip disk

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see

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jazz disc

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still

509
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very good

510
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but if you read the data

511
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if you have the data what can you do

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with it

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can you open it in something modern

514
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maybe

515
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maybe not and that's why we come in

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because we have all these old computers

517
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working with the original software so we

518
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can just open it in the original

519
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software

520
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so that's commercial

521
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we also offer repairs

522
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since we want an interactive computer

523
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museum

524
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we have to have knowledge of all these

525
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,200
computers right

526
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so we have to repair them because most

527
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of the computers we get

528
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are broken when we get them

529
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or will blow up if we try to use them

530
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so we have to make make sure we can

531
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repair them

532
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but why only use it internally why not

533
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use it externally

534
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so that's exactly what we did we just

535
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opened the computer repair shop

536
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and in these times a computer repair

537
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shop by itself is not really feasible

538
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,720
anymore it's not a business

539
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,080
unless you do it like huge but yeah

540
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,160
nobody is going to a shop to repair the

541
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,760
computer anymore it's just you you know

542
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you return it throw it away whatever or

543
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repair it yourself

544
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but you don't go to the shop anymore

545
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,440
it's not the 1990s anymore

546
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or 80s so

547
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yeah we do that and we still have a lot

548
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of people you know don't know how to

549
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,720
reinstall windows yeah sure we'll do

550
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,039
that or reinstall a mac but also

551
00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:02,880
commodore 64 that's broken

552
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,080
we also repair that and we always repair

553
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we never replace

554
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we try to not to replace but

555
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obviously if we have to spend six hours

556
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to repair a commodore 64 then you could

557
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probably get another one that's probably

558
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cheaper than

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and no q no pay

560
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simple as that

561
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,600
there's also commercial stuff we also

562
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,000
sell computers all refurbished computers

563
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,240
it's also what we sell old laptops

564
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business laptops we sell them

565
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one of our biggest

566
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uh

567
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,039
customers is called stifting leg health

568
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it's a foundation

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that gives laptops to poor families

570
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poor family that has a child obviously

571
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that goes to school and needs a laptop

572
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,679
but can't they can't afford a laptop

573
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so

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we give them a laptop

575
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and that foundation pays us it's 150

576
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,600
euro not much

577
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,440
but what's what we do

578
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,400
also the social service the

579
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,320
work agency

580
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,679
if you have a

581
00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:07,679
somebody who's unemployed and needs to

582
00:21:07,679 --> 00:21:09,360
follow a course for their work for their

583
00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:10,559
new work

584
00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:12,559
and don't have the money to buy a laptop

585
00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:14,840
there we are again we can provide those

586
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,520
laptops and since march this year we

587
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,400
also do that for ukrainian refugees

588
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,240
and nobody's paying that for us but we

589
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,960
just give them away somebody comes in

590
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,510
we give them away

591
00:21:26,510 --> 00:21:29,600
[Applause]

592
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,200
and apparently we're the only one in the

593
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,720
netherlands who does that because we're

594
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,559
in helmand which is pretty south but we

595
00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:36,159
get them from all over the netherlands

596
00:21:36,159 --> 00:21:39,200
people from ukraine come to the museum

597
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,880
to get a laptop

598
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,640
and it's a it's a normal laptop it's

599
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,360
just you know second to seventh

600
00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:48,159
generation core i5 so core i7 so they're

601
00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:50,080
really decent laptops we install windows

602
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,559
10 on it or windows 11 if they possible

603
00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:55,360
install english ukrainian russian

604
00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,919
languages so they can use them and

605
00:21:57,919 --> 00:21:59,600
there's warranty on it as well they

606
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,039
return it if it's broken and we just

607
00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:03,919
repair it it's that simple

608
00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:05,520
thankful we have a lot of companies

609
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,640
sponsoring laptops to us for that

610
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,880
especially for this reason

611
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,720
and we also sell them so you can also go

612
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,720
to the museum and buy a laptop it's

613
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,360
always below the 300 euro

614
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:19,679
because we are there are shops nearby

615
00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:22,640
that sell chromebooks for 300 euro

616
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,679
we know these chrome booths are crap

617
00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:26,400
but

618
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,559
a normal consumer goes either a new

619
00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:30,480
laptop or a secondhand laptop for 300

620
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,159
they go for a new one

621
00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:33,679
then six months later they're returned

622
00:22:33,679 --> 00:22:35,440
to us because their laptop is broken but

623
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,240
that's another story

624
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,120
so that's that was the business plan

625
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:44,799
and i wrote it down i just did that yeah

626
00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:46,880
you saw it i just made a word document

627
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,960
and i wrote it down and back then i was

628
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,559
still using open office i guess i don't

629
00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:52,480
know

630
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,360
so that was the end of 2016

631
00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:58,720
and then 2016 17 started

632
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,080
i had a plan

633
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,880
but i need a building

634
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,200
and it needed to have some requirements

635
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,679
i mean we can't just have a building for

636
00:23:07,679 --> 00:23:09,919
a standard house it has to be a good

637
00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:11,039
building

638
00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:13,840
and i wanted to have a specific in the

639
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,000
city center i didn't want to be on an

640
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,559
industrial area or so

641
00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:22,000
the reason is i

642
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,360
and the reason is

643
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:24,720
um

644
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,919
museums

645
00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:27,760
why on an industrial area it's it's

646
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,600
really hard to get

647
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,679
to usually they don't have a train

648
00:23:31,679 --> 00:23:33,120
station nearby or you have to go with a

649
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,320
bus

650
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,120
secondly if i go to an industrial area

651
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,360
it means i have to provide food

652
00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,400
for people sounds stupid but people come

653
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,480
in and they stay for a few hours

654
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,039
hopefully and maybe they're hungry

655
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:49,679
so that means i have to provide food

656
00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:50,799
and

657
00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:53,120
i'm not a cook

658
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:55,120
so no i don't and i don't want to spend

659
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,679
money on that so no

660
00:23:57,679 --> 00:23:59,440
i stay in the city center

661
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,000
if somebody's hungry go outside there's

662
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,240
plenty of food over there

663
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,679
that's their job

664
00:24:05,679 --> 00:24:08,400
so i wanted to be in a city center

665
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,480
and i wanted to rent

666
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,640
not

667
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,480
anti-crack i don't know in the english

668
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,840
term but temporary so if i don't didn't

669
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,039
want to

670
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:20,960
what the simple reason again

671
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,320
i don't want to have a three weeks

672
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,919
notice

673
00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:26,320
so like you have to three weeks and you

674
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,320
have to get out of the building

675
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,559
that's not very nice to have in a museum

676
00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:31,520
right

677
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,279
especially if you know how many stuff we

678
00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:35,760
have now it's not fun to move anymore

679
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080
really

680
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,320
so i came i had this this idea i wanted

681
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,200
to have a decently sized building

682
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,919
at first i asked for 1500 square meters

683
00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:46,720
but

684
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,120
yeah they didn't have that

685
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:50,960
so as to the city city of helmand

686
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,720
because i reside in the city of helmond

687
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,600
and

688
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,000
yeah why nude so i go into the city of

689
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,279
hamilt

690
00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:58,880
and they had a plan they had a big

691
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,960
building in in their minds

692
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,200
uh where they could host four museums in

693
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,799
there were two other museums in

694
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:08,640
helmholtz that were getting out of their

695
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,919
building because their building was

696
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:11,279
teared down

697
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:14,080
um and they thought of the idea okay we

698
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,159
have this two build two museums and then

699
00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:18,240
the home computer museum and they found

700
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,720
something else for a museum great great

701
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,720
idea good business plan one big building

702
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,799
multiple museums i think it was a good

703
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:26,000
idea

704
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,480
but yeah it was the the city city

705
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,799
council is not going to work

706
00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:32,640
they didn't and they

707
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,880
just put in more build more people and

708
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,840
more

709
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,880
eventually i think we were 15 companies

710
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,320
in the same building and the building

711
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,480
wasn't any bigger it was a building that

712
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,760
already existed

713
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,080
and was empty for a long long time

714
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,720
so yeah i ended up with like maybe 100

715
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,120
square meters i was like now it's going

716
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:52,960
to happen

717
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,440
uh but yeah the city was still you know

718
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,880
this is going to happen this is going to

719
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,919
happen

720
00:25:57,919 --> 00:25:59,520
so um

721
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,360
at some point i remember it was in

722
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,840
october and uh i was talking with with

723
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,240
one of the the people from the city

724
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,240
and she said to me

725
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,120
maybe you should start already

726
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,039
with the museum

727
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:14,480
so okay

728
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,679
i was like yeah sure let's do that

729
00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:18,880
and now

730
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,679
uh we still speak a lot

731
00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:24,640
she meant back then that i should start

732
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,200
promoting it on the internet but i was

733
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,720
already ahead of that i was already

734
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,520
doing that at the time so

735
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,440
my key was okay i have to rent the

736
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,960
building

737
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,320
so i did i rent the building

738
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,880
i didn't want to rely on anything so i

739
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,600
just started i just went ahead make some

740
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,799
phone calls

741
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:48,960
and found an empty building

742
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,600
500 square meters in the city of helmand

743
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,080
and it was

744
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,880
that's me

745
00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:03,200
these are screenshots from youtube so

746
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,120
yeah so this was an empty building it

747
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,200
was completely empty

748
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,480
no power

749
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,919
no floor

750
00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:12,080
it still had a wall in middle in the

751
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320
building

752
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,640
and it was empty for multiple years

753
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,480
used to be a solar

754
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,000
thing

755
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,159
sunbathing studio or something and they

756
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:24,399
went bankrupt and they just removed

757
00:27:24,399 --> 00:27:26,720
everything that was copper so you can

758
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,720
imagine that all cables were just

759
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,799
stretched off so it was

760
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,039
a mess inside

761
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:36,640
um so we got this building uh by the end

762
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,399
of 2017

763
00:27:38,399 --> 00:27:40,159
we got the key for building we went into

764
00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:41,360
the building

765
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:43,120
we found out there was no floor

766
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,440
so we called up the com the owner of the

767
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,360
building and said there's no floor how

768
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:48,960
can i use this

769
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,200
all right there's a floor yeah

770
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520
okay we will make it sure that you get a

771
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,440
floor oh perfect

772
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,679
so i figured out

773
00:27:57,679 --> 00:28:00,080
let's do six weeks from now

774
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,240
so i calculated six weeks or something

775
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,360
like that

776
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,320
um so i calculated a few weeks and

777
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,520
um i came up with 17 march of the 17th

778
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,200
2018.

779
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,360
that will be our opening day

780
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:16,320
so i put it on the internet and somebody

781
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,520
else would i put it on the internet

782
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,720
we're all going to open we have a

783
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,919
building and we're going to open on

784
00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:22,240
march 17 2018.

785
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,919
cool

786
00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:25,279
but the

787
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:28,399
building owner wasn't that fast

788
00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:31,279
actually she was so slow if they were so

789
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:32,320
slow

790
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,559
that 10 days before

791
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:36,240
our opening

792
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,360
they pulled down the floor

793
00:28:39,679 --> 00:28:41,520
and there was no electricity there was

794
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,880
nothing in there

795
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,919
so in 10 days we built a museum

796
00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:47,120
and i don't know if this is going to

797
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,880
work

798
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,080
yeah maybe

799
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,679
maybe it's work yeah that's me

800
00:28:53,679 --> 00:28:55,039
again

801
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:57,600
so i i'm going to skip through it easy

802
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,720
because

803
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,320
can i skip through it

804
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,480
no yes not

805
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,440
now i can't get to it

806
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,679
can i script no i can't skip

807
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,760
i don't have any sounds i don't need

808
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,480
sounds yeah

809
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,559
ah never mind now

810
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,760
it doesn't work it uh

811
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,240
yeah it's

812
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,600
i don't need science

813
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,799
okay

814
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,120
uh no i'll leave it on i'll just tell

815
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360
about it it's working apparently this is

816
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,360
our intro um

817
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,080
do i still have time um

818
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,440
so this is actually what happened

819
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,159
between march 9 and march 17.

820
00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:42,960
uh

821
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,360
as you can see the building the concrete

822
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,520
floor was made on my on friday nine of

823
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,240
march and as we said we opened on march

824
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,360
17 we

825
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,880
everybody and everybody knew that we

826
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,799
were open at that we're going to open at

827
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:55,919
a time

828
00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:58,159
our sponsors and i still remember our

829
00:29:58,159 --> 00:30:00,559
biggest our only sponsor actually

830
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:03,520
came in uh while we were doing this

831
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,120
and he said to us

832
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,039
yeah you're not going to make it and

833
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,760
like want a bet

834
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,760
we worked every day

835
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,159
every single day from eight in the

836
00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:17,039
morning to two in the night with a team

837
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:20,000
of about six people

838
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,360
and i can tell you after the uh

839
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,480
yeah the last day i had pain i had pain

840
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,159
in muscles i didn't know i they had

841
00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:30,320
those metals it was incredible i

842
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,640
couldn't this was doing this was painful

843
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,679
just standing was painful it was

844
00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:36,640
um

845
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,159
so yeah it's it

846
00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:40,320
it's on youtube you can find it

847
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,720
so i'm not doing this because

848
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,720
yeah i'm a museum director so i will

849
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,440
tell i will talk i can talk for hours if

850
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,679
i if you're ever in a museum don't ask

851
00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:52,720
me to do a tour because i can talk for

852
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,000
eight hours and yes i did that already

853
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,320
so anyway that's a

854
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,600
as you can see it's

855
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,799
very empty

856
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,200
and the lights it was just

857
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,120
this was with one screw the lights were

858
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,519
bolted to the to the concrete into the

859
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:08,880
ceiling

860
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,760
uh

861
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,919
there were cables hanging everywhere but

862
00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:14,320
we managed we were open

863
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320
on march 17.

864
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,960
we were open with 25 computers that were

865
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,919
working

866
00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:21,440
oddly enough all the computers from the

867
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,000
90s were broken but we were open with

868
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,600
all these computers

869
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,919
at that time i had about 400 computers

870
00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:28,960
in stock

871
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,880
and they were scattered around in

872
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,039
several storage units and in my garage

873
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:34,320
at home and

874
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,559
but we had with 25 computers working we

875
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:38,320
were open and

876
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,760
people could enjoy and we had a great

877
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,679
day that day

878
00:31:41,679 --> 00:31:44,080
and i slept a few days after that but

879
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,279
um

880
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:47,600
yeah we had 10 days of building

881
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,640
uh

882
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,120
and we started and in um

883
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,360
by the end of 2018

884
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,519
i'm still holding nothing but end of

885
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:58,080
2018 we were nearly bankrupt

886
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,519
because we didn't have any budget at all

887
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:02,320
uh

888
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,559
the total budget we had at the time was

889
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:07,519
25 000 euros not dollars

890
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,279
euros

891
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,840
that was about 10 000 of my personal

892
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,519
money

893
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:15,200
and the rest of the sponsors and the

894
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,000
city that give a bit of money that was

895
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,720
it

896
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,159
and again

897
00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:22,799
no electricity so we had to really do

898
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:24,799
every electricity we had to go from the

899
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:26,480
from the the

900
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,519
box

901
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:29,279
all the way and we had to do with with

902
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,440
high power and it was it's crazy there

903
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,120
were no lights

904
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,640
we had to pay for that there were no

905
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,919
walls

906
00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:38,559
just to make a nice there was nothing

907
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,640
but we managed to do it for some somehow

908
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,320
um

909
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,120
but by the end of 2018 yeah we were we

910
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,720
were nearly bankrupt actually we were

911
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,240
bankrupt

912
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,679
on paper

913
00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:53,679
but since we were still communicating

914
00:32:53,679 --> 00:32:56,159
with the people who are we owning money

915
00:32:56,159 --> 00:32:56,880
to

916
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,360
um they kept us open

917
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,799
and they they kept those because we were

918
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:02,559
still you know asking everybody asking

919
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,640
the city to help us out because

920
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,720
there were no no nothing of visitors we

921
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,960
didn't have any budget to make to make

922
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,760
any commercial outings or anything there

923
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,039
was nothing

924
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,360
so we were just sitting in

925
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,760
and we didn't know anything and

926
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,960
um i was really

927
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,600
in doubt of throwing the towel in the

928
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,279
ring i was just you know giving up

929
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:26,399
almost

930
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:29,360
um but my my other founder

931
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,200
patrick said

932
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760
you can't stop now you've become you

933
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,720
came so far and you can't stop

934
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,360
also i did i still stopped working

935
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,559
because this museum took up all my time

936
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:44,000
i stopped working i didn't have any

937
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,519
income anymore

938
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,600
i didn't have any benefits i just

939
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,039
completely stopped

940
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,279
and um

941
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:54,320
yeah so by the end of 2018 my savings

942
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,240
were completely gone

943
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,120
uh

944
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,000
i was in debt uh a lot

945
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,640
um the museum was in debt we were two

946
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,279
months or three months behind on rent to

947
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:06,720
the building

948
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,599
so it didn't was it wasn't nice

949
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:10,879
thankfully

950
00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:13,199
another company went bankrupt

951
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,359
in the same street as we are

952
00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:18,000
and the company at that time

953
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,800
was repairing computers

954
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,280
so we heard that we found out that they

955
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,599
were bankrupt or that the

956
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:27,520
the the city in the city was closed it

957
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,719
was closing down

958
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,239
the michonne for the people who know

959
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,960
from the netherlands um we heard this

960
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,119
this company was closing down

961
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,119
so we went to that to that company and

962
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:38,960
said i heard you're closing down and

963
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,280
told us yeah we're closing down

964
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,879
uh this morning we heard that we have to

965
00:34:42,879 --> 00:34:45,119
go away by 12.

966
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,560
they heard that morning they have to go

967
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,639
away by 12. the entire building had to

968
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:51,839
be empty it was impossible to do

969
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:53,679
so i asked him very polite we are good

970
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:54,960
friends with them

971
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,119
we had an agreement they were wearing

972
00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:58,800
the new computers we were repairing the

973
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,839
old computers that was our agreement we

974
00:35:00,839 --> 00:35:02,720
did

975
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,959
so

976
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:06,480
i asked them

977
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,000
is it okay if i put up a sign over here

978
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,480
and she they said no no absolutely not

979
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,599
we are not allowed to put any signs up

980
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,960
but i'm away on quarter 212

981
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,599
and i don't care what happens after that

982
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:25,040
so at 12 exactly two papers on the front

983
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,359
door if you look for a pass go to the

984
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:28,800
home computer museum

985
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,880
and we picked up all repairs from that

986
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,280
shop went to the home computer museum

987
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,760
and that's how we survived

988
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,079
that was our thing that we could survive

989
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,720
so yeah

990
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,520
there's also

991
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,240
more than full our full-time work

992
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:49,599
we had i worked easy 20 72 hours a week

993
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:51,440
easy

994
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920
the entire year

995
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,440
well actually i'm still doing that most

996
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,520
of the time

997
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,720
see

998
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,960
i'm not even half in my presentation yet

999
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,880
oh my god um

1000
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,440
we had a first major story

1001
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,400
um

1002
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,599
i'll come back sorry um

1003
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,720
in it was in august and um

1004
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:16,640
for for some complete

1005
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,000
coincidence

1006
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,359
i um

1007
00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:22,400
i ended up sitting next at a bar

1008
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,240
uh at a cafe

1009
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:25,200
in

1010
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,599
in in the city in a small city near near

1011
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:29,839
the sea we just i went there with my

1012
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:31,520
family it was a good day

1013
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,320
uh nice weather and i said okay i've

1014
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,640
been working for 72 hours a week let's

1015
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,079
do a day off for me for one day so that

1016
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,079
morning we went into i started in my car

1017
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,800
with my family and we drove to the sea

1018
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,760
dc shore and we sit there at some random

1019
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,720
bar

1020
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:50,720
and i had this shirt on

1021
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:52,400
and and in the back you can see that all

1022
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,000
brands

1023
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,520
and um

1024
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,680
the guy next to me said to me can i ask

1025
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,760
you something yes sure

1026
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,880
i see the brands acorn and sinclair on

1027
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,839
there

1028
00:37:03,839 --> 00:37:04,720
um

1029
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:06,480
i said yeah now i'm from a computer

1030
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,440
museum yeah yeah i'm the first importer

1031
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,119
of the of the netherlands of sinclair

1032
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,000
and aegon the guy was sitting next to me

1033
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,480
literally

1034
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,640
i can't i can't figure that he was

1035
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,320
sitting there so he started to talk and

1036
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400
he also

1037
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,560
imported he imported laser he imported

1038
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,920
uh acorn he imported a lot of brands

1039
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,079
and his brother-in-law was the first one

1040
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,320
importing ibm into the netherlands this

1041
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,240
was a guy that was completely unknown on

1042
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,640
the internet but he was very key to the

1043
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,720
role of computers in the netherlands his

1044
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,720
name is paul pardon he still lives

1045
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,119
he's a very nice bloke and

1046
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,720
so we got made but the thing is

1047
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,920
he sold sinclair he sold acorn

1048
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400
uh he gave up over with importing that

1049
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,720
and he kept only one company

1050
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:58,720
one company alone

1051
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:01,359
and that is

1052
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:04,640
laser

1053
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,800
laser computers

1054
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,640
that was he was the only guy in the

1055
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,480
netherlands importing laser computers

1056
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,160
actually they were made in the

1057
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,640
netherlands the laser computers

1058
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,079
and um

1059
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,640
yeah there's also katja schumann was

1060
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,079
back then

1061
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,359
some kind of famous uh girl from a soap

1062
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:25,040
series which is still going on by the

1063
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:25,839
way

1064
00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:28,160
and and he was telling he wrote he made

1065
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,960
sure the song was written for her and he

1066
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,720
booked her and um yeah that's how katya

1067
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,359
became famous and laser computer became

1068
00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:38,960
famous lazy computers at some point was

1069
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,119
the biggest in the netherlands

1070
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:42,560
and

1071
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,160
after a while he gave up a lot of

1072
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,440
competition from the chinese market

1073
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,920
dell as american but

1074
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,880
but acer and all that kind of brands so

1075
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,880
he sold his company laser computer's

1076
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,520
assault in late 1999

1077
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,280
and the guy who took it over um yeah he

1078
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,359
 it up that's his simple and lazy

1079
00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:06,000
computer's gone the thing is you

1080
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,160
couldn't find this information at all

1081
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,000
his name was completely he doesn't have

1082
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,599
linkedin he doesn't have any social

1083
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:14,480
media he's completely offline basically

1084
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,640
you couldn't find this information

1085
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,760
and um we have proof obviously

1086
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,480
so what we did is we let him share this

1087
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,880
story create this entire story how he

1088
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,480
became the importer of laser computers

1089
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,000
and that's what we published on our

1090
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,839
website and we are still the only one

1091
00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:33,440
who published the full story of laser

1092
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,520
computers so that was the first story we

1093
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,720
did that in 2018

1094
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,520
so 2019

1095
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,040
we weren't bankrupt

1096
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,480
so that was good

1097
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,880
and we started to have a stable income

1098
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,560
because we were helping people we were

1099
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,000
helping people with autism helping

1100
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,520
people with this to the labor market and

1101
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,960
the dutch government gives money for

1102
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,680
that

1103
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,960
so we had stable income we had

1104
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,400
volunteers as well

1105
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,400
it was a great system and we still have

1106
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,200
that same system

1107
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,760
and we had the first contact regarding a

1108
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,280
new building because the current the

1109
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,599
building we rented was only for two

1110
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:08,960
years

1111
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,359
because when we started to rent it the

1112
00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:13,760
city told us after two years we have

1113
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,599
this major building the big building

1114
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:18,319
with the four museums in already

1115
00:40:18,319 --> 00:40:21,040
but in early 2018

1116
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,440
just after we opened the city decided

1117
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,920
yeah you're not coming in that building

1118
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,599
so

1119
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:30,160
but we had to do anything else and

1120
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,400
yeah the landlord

1121
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,240
really wasn't pleased with us

1122
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:36,640
because we were still behind with rent

1123
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,280
so there was no chance we could ever had

1124
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,880
a successor a longer rent period

1125
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,640
so we needed to have a new building and

1126
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,920
it happened

1127
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,480
that the building next to us

1128
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,880
which was much larger and a much better

1129
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,560
street

1130
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,800
was empty and we could

1131
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,280
got in contact with the land and the

1132
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,960
owner of that building

1133
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,560
and he was uh

1134
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,280
enthusiastic about it yeah 10 minutes

1135
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,040
great

1136
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,599
i'm still in 2019 i was still now

1137
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,640
um and we won the heritage prize

1138
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,640
that was a big one we won the heritage

1139
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,800
prize by the end of 2019

1140
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,079
uh because our combination of social

1141
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:19,200
cultural

1142
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,040
uh entrepreneurship

1143
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,359
that's the reason why we got the prize

1144
00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:25,119
and it was not decided by a judge it was

1145
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:26,880
decided by the audience

1146
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,480
which was quite easy because they had a

1147
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,760
voting system

1148
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,839
and you ask a computer museum for voting

1149
00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:35,839
systems yeah we can fix that

1150
00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:37,280
so

1151
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,760
this is our new building

1152
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,480
the entire yellow part

1153
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,960
is completely us

1154
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,319
1090 square meters

1155
00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:52,079
and we moved in by the end of 2019

1156
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,720
and we were closed for the entire month

1157
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:58,000
of january 2020 and we figured out it is

1158
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,839
a good day to open on the 2nd of

1159
00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:02,720
february 2020.

1160
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,119
and we opened that day

1161
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:06,880
and we had a youtuber coming over it was

1162
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,400
great and a lot of people were

1163
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,960
enthusiastic about us

1164
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,240
yeah

1165
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,000
then

1166
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,680
corona and stuffs happened

1167
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,920
we moved to a new building we opened on

1168
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,839
the 2nd of february 2020 and we were

1169
00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:24,800
closed on march the 15th

1170
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,560
yeah that wasn't a great success

1171
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,119
but since we had some time on our hands

1172
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:32,960
we had didn't have any visitors we

1173
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,040
started to repair on our status

1174
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,640
and our status is a dutch cut computer

1175
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,920
it's it's a

1176
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,680
really big computer

1177
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,280
and

1178
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,280
yeah there's not there's no information

1179
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,560
at all no schematics no documentation no

1180
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,319
pictures no videos

1181
00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:51,440
up to then

1182
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,200
uh and we had to we took on the

1183
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,720
challenge to repair that to get that

1184
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,560
machine booting again just because we

1185
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,839
can and we had some time on our hands

1186
00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:02,960
we saved we managed to stay afloat

1187
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,640
as a company

1188
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,560
by selling laptops

1189
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,880
we sold in three weeks more than 100

1190
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,920
laptops

1191
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,000
to the foundation that gives to poor

1192
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,400
families because suddenly

1193
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,440
home schooling became something and we

1194
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,359
had to deliver laptops it was like the

1195
00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:21,440
mcdonald's at our place

1196
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,560
in the front they were giving out

1197
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,079
laptops in the back they were installing

1198
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:25,839
laptops and i was doing the the

1199
00:43:25,839 --> 00:43:28,240
administration to send bills

1200
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,000
it's a crazy time but we in three weeks

1201
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,079
time we had uh we sold more than 100

1202
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,480
laptops

1203
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,680
um

1204
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,680
we started to do the dutch heritage we

1205
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,440
received an holborgen which is a dutch

1206
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,880
computer

1207
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,359
if you happen to be in the retro village

1208
00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:45,200
we have the whole bone over there

1209
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,040
working

1210
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,480
and we started to do dutch heritage

1211
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,480
because the home computer stuff you know

1212
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,000
is great but

1213
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,760
we need to do more and we found the

1214
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,160
offstate s which is also dutch computer

1215
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,240
and we had tulip properties so that's we

1216
00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:59,680
did

1217
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,280
and instead of

1218
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,119
complaining about

1219
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:06,400
oh it's it's terrible that we have

1220
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,040
no visitors we decided to go on the

1221
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,079
internet

1222
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:12,319
and we took basically we took over

1223
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:15,440
all social media we have every social

1224
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,440
media can find us

1225
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,720
except for um

1226
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,440
i've got a name yeah i might we got all

1227
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,520
social media

1228
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,440
and we are actually the

1229
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,520
by far the largest computer museum on

1230
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,960
social media

1231
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,119
by simple every day a picture with a

1232
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:38,000
nice story that's what we do every day

1233
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,119
so uh despite we are closed for uh four

1234
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:42,480
months

1235
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,240
uh

1236
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,160
not my one month view one month was

1237
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,160
closed because we were moving not too

1238
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,640
pandemic

1239
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,440
despite that we grow we grew in revenue

1240
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,200
we grew in collection and we grew in

1241
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,640
volunteers

1242
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,480
we grew in everything which was

1243
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
completely strange because we are a

1244
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,680
non-profit organization without subsidy

1245
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,480
and we grew in 2020 in a year that we

1246
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,760
everybody was complaining that

1247
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,160
everything went bad so

1248
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,839
despite that we had less visitors than

1249
00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:13,599
in 2019

1250
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:15,359
and by the end of the year we had a very

1251
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:17,040
hard time but we were saved by the

1252
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,960
sponsors people getting a year's

1253
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,560
subscription

1254
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,839
and in 2020 we were given

1255
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:26,880
the largest collection boxed pc games

1256
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,440
we counted them there are 2 200

1257
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,560
pc games in our museum and we got the

1258
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,560
largest collection cdi in the museum

1259
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,400
so

1260
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,319
2021

1261
00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:41,680
yeah i'm going a little bit faster

1262
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,040
because i'm getting out of time with

1263
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,760
we were more we were more close we had

1264
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,119
six months we were closed in 2021

1265
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:52,560
um

1266
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,280
we had less visitors than in 2020

1267
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,680
we became member of the network digital

1268
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,040
uh heritage nde

1269
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,160
meaning that we are now

1270
00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:09,839
for museums and for other companies

1271
00:46:09,839 --> 00:46:12,240
we are reading old media and converting

1272
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,079
the data to a modern format that's what

1273
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:16,000
we do

1274
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,440
we became an example of social

1275
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,119
entrepreneurship by the national office

1276
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:20,560
of cultural heritage

1277
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,560
so that's where we also are

1278
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,720
we got our status working

1279
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,480
and at this moment we are the only one

1280
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,920
in the entire world that have worked in

1281
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,240
our status standing and we had a massive

1282
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:32,640
growth on social media

1283
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,720
the only thing we don't have i i came up

1284
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,240
with the only thing we didn't have we

1285
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:39,440
don't have currently isn't only fans but

1286
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,119
it's only social media we don't have um

1287
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:45,680
yeah by the end of 2021 we were again

1288
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,359
nearly bankrupt

1289
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:49,520
that's that's our thing by the end of

1290
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,280
the year getting bankrupt

1291
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,920
but we're saved by sponsors donations

1292
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,480
and adoptions you can adopt a computer

1293
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,160
in the home computer museum

1294
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,760
then we make sure we give them fresh

1295
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,680
power every day

1296
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,680
that's what we do and you can pet it and

1297
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,960
you can come and visit it as well so

1298
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,200
we became an essential museum for the

1299
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,800
preserve of the national history

1300
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,359
so we are officially

1301
00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:17,920
yeah right but

1302
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,920
basically we can't go bankrupt because

1303
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,119
if we are

1304
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,680
nearby bankruptcy then the netherlands

1305
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,520
will take us over

1306
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,000
and fire me but yeah that's so we don't

1307
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,359
do that

1308
00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:30,480
again

1309
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,240
uh we crafted a lot of data

1310
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,640
yeah

1311
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,680
this year

1312
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,559
we opened the cdi collection it was

1313
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:44,319
planned in 2020 but yeah there was

1314
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:45,920
something happening in the world so we

1315
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,079
didn't open we opened the cdi collection

1316
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:50,000
we actually have the largest cdi

1317
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,079
collection in the entire world both

1318
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,079
hardware and software

1319
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:56,800
all the all the cdi's are currently

1320
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,440
are archived already and shared

1321
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,520
that's what we also do we open for

1322
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,599
everybody to come in and actually share

1323
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:04,960
the data

1324
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,359
ah three yeah

1325
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:10,559
he didn't tell me he had a three um

1326
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:12,880
on september 25th we have the opening of

1327
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,040
the game collection pc boxed game

1328
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,720
collection which is actually in the

1329
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:19,520
guinness world record and we will try

1330
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,920
this year to have that

1331
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,480
set again in the home computer museum

1332
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,640
because the old record says 1800 and we

1333
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,839
counted and we come up to 2200 so yeah

1334
00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:31,200
we need to fix that

1335
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,319
mgh

1336
00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:34,000
it was the first time for us and we love

1337
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,839
it here so we hope that we come back the

1338
00:48:35,839 --> 00:48:37,119
next time

1339
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,280
um and i think everybody will like likes

1340
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,720
us too because we have a lot of people

1341
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:42,800
coming in our tent

1342
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,559
our visitor numbers are getting better

1343
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:47,040
and better it's not still on the place

1344
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,440
where we want to be but i think this

1345
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,720
year we'll be

1346
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:53,200
doing that

1347
00:48:53,839 --> 00:48:56,319
yeah and i was already out of time with

1348
00:48:56,319 --> 00:48:58,000
this so

1349
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,680
why are we important

1350
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,040
i think

1351
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,040
i told that pretty much

1352
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,960
we do preserve the history

1353
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,800
we actually tell the stories we make

1354
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,400
sure everything is working that the

1355
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,440
knowledge is kept how things work

1356
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,760
and what we can learn about

1357
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,520
the the history

1358
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,319
is the the speed it went we went from

1359
00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:21,200
1977 with a computer that was four

1360
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,599
kilobytes of memory we went to a thing

1361
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,520
that yeah i mean this is a computer

1362
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,680
everybody here has a computer

1363
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,319
and what we learn in our computer museum

1364
00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:33,440
is that every computer has its own story

1365
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,040
and we actually found that a lot of

1366
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,440
people now who are in the musician we

1367
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,520
are music industry started out with

1368
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,880
matari

1369
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,359
because we found the link between atari

1370
00:49:43,359 --> 00:49:45,359
and becoming a musician

1371
00:49:45,359 --> 00:49:46,960
and that's very interesting there's a

1372
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,119
lot of history to be found in the

1373
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:50,400
computer museum

1374
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,559
history about people history about about

1375
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:53,760
technology

1376
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,200
it's very interesting

1377
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,400
and yeah i have one minute left so

1378
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,920
i was i was already out of time to

1379
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:04,720
create more slides so i'm fine um

1380
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:08,000
yeah that's not interesting that's a lot

1381
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:08,720
of

1382
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,559
go

1383
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:12,559
this is what other people say about us

1384
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:17,000
and the fun thing i we have 889

1385
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,559
889 unique computers in our collection

1386
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:23,880
and the total registered items is 30

1387
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,599
555.

1388
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:28,160
that's registers items not keyboards not

1389
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,920
mouse

1390
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,800
but

1391
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,680
really like a monitor or a computer or a

1392
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,880
particular piece of software or

1393
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,720
documentation that's all we register

1394
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,280
yeah yeah yeah

1395
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,680
questions

1396
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,200
we're in the retro village

1397
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,559
thank you very much bad that wasn't i

1398
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,400
would have given you six hours for this

1399
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,000
talk it's not it's a lot of it i can

1400
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,240
feel it it's no problem yeah so um thank

1401
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,000
you very much unfortunately we're out of

1402
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,079
time we will definitely drop by either

1403
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:10,160
at the retro village or at the museum

1404
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,240
and please everyone please give another

1405
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:13,760
warm round of applause for pot thank you

1406
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,960
very much thank you

1407
00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:29,440
you