1 00:00:01,750 --> 00:00:06,880 make a likeness with IDG News Service I 2 00:00:04,270 --> 00:00:09,849 was wanting to comment on the statements 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,860 made by the french minister in financial 4 00:00:09,849 --> 00:00:14,590 times this morning sir saying that the 5 00:00:11,860 --> 00:00:17,380 icon is totally opaque and also 6 00:00:14,590 --> 00:00:20,380 suggesting a General Assembly which she 7 00:00:17,380 --> 00:00:26,289 reiterated during the session this 8 00:00:20,380 --> 00:00:29,710 morning that's it thank ya I I think 9 00:00:26,289 --> 00:00:32,379 that France along with all countries 10 00:00:29,710 --> 00:00:35,020 that have benefited hugely from the 11 00:00:32,378 --> 00:00:40,480 openness of the Internet would like to 12 00:00:35,020 --> 00:00:43,600 continue to see I can evolve and grow so 13 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:46,059 we support absolutely support that I 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:50,829 think everyone that has seen our actions 15 00:00:46,059 --> 00:00:54,610 and what we're doing speak for that if 16 00:00:50,829 --> 00:00:58,120 she or others have ideas to create new 17 00:00:54,610 --> 00:01:00,039 structures to enable I can to improve by 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,410 all means let's put these ideas on the 19 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:06,640 table we have open mechanisms to do that 20 00:01:02,410 --> 00:01:09,970 anyone can participate and let's debate 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:13,600 them and if indeed we all agree by 22 00:01:09,970 --> 00:01:15,939 consensus with a diverse participation 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,548 of all stakeholders not just governments 24 00:01:15,939 --> 00:01:22,270 but everyone that this is the way to go 25 00:01:18,549 --> 00:01:25,720 I think we should go so I think the fact 26 00:01:22,270 --> 00:01:29,619 that any government including Frances 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:32,140 puts on the table good ideas any ideas 28 00:01:29,619 --> 00:01:34,900 it's our responsibility to consume them 29 00:01:32,140 --> 00:01:36,790 to listen to them and to advance i can 30 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:39,220 because if i can doesn't advance we're 31 00:01:36,790 --> 00:01:41,110 going to die we have to have to progress 32 00:01:39,220 --> 00:01:43,240 all the time we have for the last 15 33 00:01:41,110 --> 00:01:46,149 years we're not about to stop so we 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:50,079 welcome we welcome any effort to go that 35 00:01:46,149 --> 00:01:52,060 way now i don't think i can is okay 36 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:53,648 Transparency International when they 37 00:01:52,060 --> 00:01:55,060 sent a team to look at us they said 38 00:01:53,649 --> 00:01:57,009 you're one of the hardest-working 39 00:01:55,060 --> 00:02:00,040 organizations on the planet to be 40 00:01:57,009 --> 00:02:01,390 transparent so and we are and the 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,689 assessment is that we are quite 42 00:02:01,390 --> 00:02:07,330 transparent so I think we will continue 43 00:02:04,689 --> 00:02:09,970 to do that transparency account 44 00:02:07,330 --> 00:02:12,670 ability as I said this morning are like 45 00:02:09,970 --> 00:02:14,950 perfection you know so you have to keep 46 00:02:12,670 --> 00:02:17,049 working at them you can never stop and i 47 00:02:14,950 --> 00:02:21,220 can has been working very very hard on 48 00:02:17,050 --> 00:02:24,880 these issues and we will continue to is 49 00:02:21,220 --> 00:02:26,620 the dot wine celsius so serious for them 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,450 that they feel that the whole line can 51 00:02:26,620 --> 00:02:30,160 has to be rebuilt for that to what 52 00:02:28,450 --> 00:02:34,540 happened the way they wanted or sir 53 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:36,790 what's what are they after you think I I 54 00:02:34,540 --> 00:02:41,079 don't know it's good to ask them I mean 55 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:43,780 wine is serious we all like wine so 56 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,360 there's no no issue with with the fact 57 00:02:43,780 --> 00:02:49,060 that wine is a very serious matter it is 58 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,250 obviously also a major industry for 59 00:02:49,060 --> 00:02:54,700 France and however for other parts of 60 00:02:51,250 --> 00:02:58,630 the world many many countries have wine 61 00:02:54,700 --> 00:03:03,040 industries as well I think that their 62 00:02:58,630 --> 00:03:05,019 concern about this gtld and others gTLDs 63 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,959 is warranted and there are mechanisms 64 00:03:05,020 --> 00:03:09,550 that I can for them to pursue and they 65 00:03:07,959 --> 00:03:10,900 have pursued them and they should 66 00:03:09,550 --> 00:03:14,350 continue pursuing there are additional 67 00:03:10,900 --> 00:03:17,590 mechanisms they have so I think it's a 68 00:03:14,350 --> 00:03:19,570 good thing I mean I understand we all 69 00:03:17,590 --> 00:03:23,170 get frustrated sometimes when we don't 70 00:03:19,570 --> 00:03:25,180 get the conclusions we want but more 71 00:03:23,170 --> 00:03:27,609 importantly is to continue working 72 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:30,220 through a process that has worked for 73 00:03:27,610 --> 00:03:32,380 many people for many years and to 74 00:03:30,220 --> 00:03:36,850 remember that the Internet economy and 75 00:03:32,380 --> 00:03:38,950 the new gTLDs have created a huge 76 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:41,739 industry that is serving a lot of people 77 00:03:38,950 --> 00:03:43,510 and building a lot of value let's keep 78 00:03:41,739 --> 00:03:46,690 focused on that and I think we will all 79 00:03:43,510 --> 00:03:49,359 be okay Monica Emmert my eyes online in 80 00:03:46,690 --> 00:03:51,760 Germany on the transition coordination 81 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,700 group there have been calls to change 82 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,440 the composition I'm here for example in 83 00:03:54,700 --> 00:04:01,030 the government advisory committee how 84 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:04,209 will these be noble changes be made who 85 00:04:01,030 --> 00:04:05,560 will decide on that and when what is the 86 00:04:04,209 --> 00:04:08,380 timeline for that and the second 87 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,850 question is it conceivable that that 88 00:04:08,380 --> 00:04:12,370 might be a question for Steve I don't 89 00:04:09,850 --> 00:04:15,609 know is it conceivable that the 90 00:04:12,370 --> 00:04:19,060 oversight part if you call if you call 91 00:04:15,610 --> 00:04:21,130 it oversight is broken up because in the 92 00:04:19,060 --> 00:04:24,190 gac session also patrick filestream said 93 00:04:21,130 --> 00:04:27,790 then organization like the ITF already 94 00:04:24,190 --> 00:04:30,670 has kind of oversight built in their 95 00:04:27,790 --> 00:04:34,360 processes so is it possible that and and 96 00:04:30,670 --> 00:04:49,600 even that some run first and the DNA the 97 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:51,580 DNS part might run later what money so 98 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:55,120 just on your first question which was 99 00:04:51,580 --> 00:04:58,870 about additional changes we have 100 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:01,860 received a thousand proposals for the 101 00:04:58,870 --> 00:05:05,920 first process that was published right 102 00:05:01,860 --> 00:05:08,440 we can't stay in a loop of changes to 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,870 the process this is the process of how 104 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,460 we're going to run the process if we 105 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:15,490 keep doing this we'll find ourselves 106 00:05:12,460 --> 00:05:17,770 frankly missing a huge window of 107 00:05:15,490 --> 00:05:19,900 opportunity to get this done so I think 108 00:05:17,770 --> 00:05:22,690 you would agree with me that we we had a 109 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:26,739 big dialogue in Singapore we issued an 110 00:05:22,690 --> 00:05:30,160 initial document we received a thousand 111 00:05:26,740 --> 00:05:32,680 comments that we spent weeks analyzing 112 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:36,880 and working with the team on as a result 113 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:38,890 on june sixth we published in you so and 114 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,990 we we changed the process completely 115 00:05:38,890 --> 00:05:44,919 based on the input we got we expanded it 116 00:05:40,990 --> 00:05:46,960 we now 27 people we reduce the role of 117 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,820 the role of the board we did all kinds 118 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,200 of things to give people the sense that 119 00:05:48,820 --> 00:05:53,440 this Coordinating Committee is 120 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:56,020 definitely not run by i can has full 121 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,940 representation we add a diversity to the 122 00:05:56,020 --> 00:05:59,979 representation to ensure people come 123 00:05:57,940 --> 00:06:02,230 from all over the world so all of that 124 00:05:59,980 --> 00:06:03,850 was done and now we published it now 125 00:06:02,230 --> 00:06:06,160 people will keep coming back with 126 00:06:03,850 --> 00:06:08,380 changes but i think at some point we 127 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,270 need to get going so at the moment the 128 00:06:08,380 --> 00:06:12,490 plan is for the first meeting of the 129 00:06:10,270 --> 00:06:16,030 coordinating group to occur on july 130 00:06:12,490 --> 00:06:18,760 seventeenth here in this hotel probably 131 00:06:16,030 --> 00:06:22,210 in this room so that they can start the 132 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,740 work towards really it'll never be 133 00:06:22,210 --> 00:06:26,409 perfect but i think we're close enough 134 00:06:23,740 --> 00:06:28,720 and most communities we talk to our very 135 00:06:26,410 --> 00:06:30,370 pleased right now so there will be 136 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,900 additional demands no one will find it 137 00:06:30,370 --> 00:06:32,630 perfect but i think we need to move on 138 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:35,390 at this day 139 00:06:32,630 --> 00:06:37,370 is my sense and then we will have to 140 00:06:35,390 --> 00:06:40,250 spend the next few months talking about 141 00:06:37,370 --> 00:06:44,540 real substance and and how to really do 142 00:06:40,250 --> 00:06:47,600 the transition of the stewardship yeah I 143 00:06:44,540 --> 00:06:49,820 I want to simply emphasize the last 144 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,550 point that Fadi made and alluded to 145 00:06:49,820 --> 00:06:54,800 before the the coordination committee is 146 00:06:52,550 --> 00:06:57,560 not where the action is going to be it 147 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,510 doesn't matter in the end of it how much 148 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,640 you fiddle with expanding it or 149 00:06:59,510 --> 00:07:04,610 adjusting the composition it's not a 150 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,890 decision body it's a facilitation body 151 00:07:04,610 --> 00:07:09,350 the real work is in thinking through 152 00:07:06,890 --> 00:07:13,330 what the issues are and the more time we 153 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:15,950 spend on trying to fiddle with the 154 00:07:13,330 --> 00:07:17,570 coordination body the less time we're 155 00:07:15,950 --> 00:07:20,719 going to wind up with actually getting 156 00:07:17,570 --> 00:07:23,270 into a substantive discussion so to your 157 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:26,870 point of the substantive discussions are 158 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:29,659 what are the stewardship issues where 159 00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:32,000 are the where will the oversight be in 160 00:07:29,660 --> 00:07:35,180 future iono processes where is the 161 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:38,870 division between policy and execution 162 00:07:35,180 --> 00:07:40,850 and getting that blueprint clear is what 163 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:42,830 has to be done and we really need the 164 00:07:40,850 --> 00:07:45,430 people who are knowledgeable about the 165 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:48,010 parts of the system that IDF folks the 166 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:51,320 DNS experts the top-level domain 167 00:07:48,010 --> 00:07:54,230 operators and so forth to to be in the 168 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:57,680 room and having that discussion and the 169 00:07:54,230 --> 00:08:00,650 rest is a kind of administrative piecing 170 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:04,850 together of that and that's where the 171 00:08:00,650 --> 00:08:08,500 real action is going to come quick 172 00:08:04,850 --> 00:08:11,600 follow-up and your personal opinion on 173 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:15,190 does it have to sit in one place the 174 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:19,040 oversight or could it just be broken up 175 00:08:15,190 --> 00:08:22,160 I'm going to be very clear I can was 176 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:28,280 purpose built to house the iono 177 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:31,830 functions period it's just is 178 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:34,110 when people think that we need to go and 179 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:38,000 recreate another I can there's no need 180 00:08:34,110 --> 00:08:40,320 for it we already have it if it can be 181 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,659 improved let's do it together these 182 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:46,290 processes are here for that but this 183 00:08:42,659 --> 00:08:48,270 frankly ridiculous concept that we're 184 00:08:46,290 --> 00:08:51,420 going to go and reset create new 185 00:08:48,270 --> 00:08:53,880 institutions and go and recreate what I 186 00:08:51,420 --> 00:08:56,250 can was built to do I can was built to 187 00:08:53,880 --> 00:09:00,450 do this and it should continue to do 188 00:08:56,250 --> 00:09:02,730 this now within I can which is as many 189 00:09:00,450 --> 00:09:06,800 of you know not a simple monolithic 190 00:09:02,730 --> 00:09:09,209 group it has many many organisms many 191 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:13,109 supporting organizations many mechanisms 192 00:09:09,209 --> 00:09:15,180 we should ensure that the proper concern 193 00:09:13,110 --> 00:09:17,779 the proper mechanisms are in place to 194 00:09:15,180 --> 00:09:19,920 address the concerns people have about 195 00:09:17,779 --> 00:09:21,810 separation of certain functions from 196 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,060 others and we already have some of these 197 00:09:21,810 --> 00:09:26,130 separations in place can they be 198 00:09:24,060 --> 00:09:29,219 strengthened by all means as Steve said 199 00:09:26,130 --> 00:09:33,320 it is this coordinating group that needs 200 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:36,060 to guide us on this but the scope is 201 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:39,270 clear the scope has been published we 202 00:09:36,060 --> 00:09:42,239 understand it and again to to start 203 00:09:39,270 --> 00:09:44,640 again to build icon in 2015 is not 204 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,740 really the wisest thing to do we have I 205 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,600 can hear today let's make it a better 206 00:09:46,740 --> 00:09:50,970 place and it's working quite well thank 207 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,010 you hi I'm Lisa Fleisher with the Wall 208 00:09:50,970 --> 00:09:55,200 Street Journal people would say that 209 00:09:53,010 --> 00:09:58,890 these days domains aren't as important 210 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:01,680 than before you know we have apps on our 211 00:09:58,890 --> 00:10:03,839 phones we have Google Facebook you know 212 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:06,510 all the traffic goes through there so 213 00:10:03,839 --> 00:10:08,810 what does it matter who is in charge of 214 00:10:06,510 --> 00:10:11,010 rubber stamping whether domain names get 215 00:10:08,810 --> 00:10:13,640 improved or not can you talk a little 216 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:17,520 about that I think you should go ask 217 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:20,040 3343 people with this event but it 218 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,470 obviously matters you're correct I mean 219 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,810 I think if I ask my children when is the 220 00:10:22,470 --> 00:10:27,600 last time they typed a web domain name 221 00:10:24,810 --> 00:10:29,430 they probably would not remember when 222 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,510 they did so you have a point that the 223 00:10:29,430 --> 00:10:35,250 apps and the search engines are also 224 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:38,340 mechanisms by which people find things 225 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:41,340 but I think what is becoming very clear 226 00:10:38,340 --> 00:10:44,640 is that the domain name is not just a 227 00:10:41,340 --> 00:10:47,190 mechanism to find something it is more 228 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:51,150 than that it is a mechanism to fight 229 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:52,890 something with certain criteria that a 230 00:10:51,150 --> 00:10:57,420 search doesn't give you for example 231 00:10:52,890 --> 00:11:02,640 right so if if you wanted to make sure 232 00:10:57,420 --> 00:11:04,620 that st. Michael's School in Mara bone 233 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,770 here next door is really a Catholic 234 00:11:04,620 --> 00:11:11,900 school you you can't today by googling 235 00:11:07,770 --> 00:11:14,939 it because anybody can be anybody today 236 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:17,610 but if you find st. Michael school dot 237 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:20,850 Catholic because they were able to get 238 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:24,920 that denomination from Doc Catholic that 239 00:11:20,850 --> 00:11:28,140 criteria tied to that TLD serves 240 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:30,689 authentication that's one value of a TLD 241 00:11:28,140 --> 00:11:35,180 and that's not just for the Catholics 242 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:37,080 believe me for example luxury goods 243 00:11:35,180 --> 00:11:39,839 manufacturers around the world are 244 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,880 reeling from the people copying their 245 00:11:39,839 --> 00:11:43,950 goods and calling a Cartier watch occur 246 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:47,490 to you and it isn't but if you buy a 247 00:11:43,950 --> 00:11:49,589 watch on my shop karti you will know 248 00:11:47,490 --> 00:11:51,990 it's authentic so authenticity is one 249 00:11:49,589 --> 00:11:56,280 important thing another thing is 250 00:11:51,990 --> 00:11:58,140 obviously a community I'm part of a very 251 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,540 small minority in Egypt called the 252 00:11:58,140 --> 00:12:03,150 Coptic Church and we are working 253 00:12:00,540 --> 00:12:04,949 together to build Coptic so we can tie 254 00:12:03,150 --> 00:12:07,530 our community around the globe our 255 00:12:04,950 --> 00:12:09,630 institutions our churches our our 256 00:12:07,530 --> 00:12:12,060 community that's very valuable because 257 00:12:09,630 --> 00:12:14,520 of course if i type Coptic in a search I 258 00:12:12,060 --> 00:12:16,199 will get everything including every word 259 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,730 written and every book and it will be 260 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,070 very difficult for me to authenticate 261 00:12:17,730 --> 00:12:22,320 that this is a document I can count on 262 00:12:20,070 --> 00:12:25,530 in my community so there are many many 263 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:28,170 ways people will use the domain name 264 00:12:25,530 --> 00:12:29,970 system not just so they don't type a 265 00:12:28,170 --> 00:12:33,589 long IP address which was the original 266 00:12:29,970 --> 00:12:36,780 purpose but maybe to authenticate to 267 00:12:33,589 --> 00:12:40,020 build community cities around the world 268 00:12:36,780 --> 00:12:41,850 France is actually going to consider 269 00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:44,100 holding a major conference called dot 270 00:12:41,850 --> 00:12:46,320 cities to invite mayor's around the 271 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:48,510 world who are now using their dot city 272 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,700 brands to create services for 273 00:12:48,510 --> 00:12:52,650 their citizens NYC is looking at that 274 00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:54,870 now so you can you know you could put 275 00:12:52,650 --> 00:12:56,640 your address top NYC and maybe one day 276 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:58,770 you'll find your bills and your services 277 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,600 and unfortunately your parking tickets 278 00:12:58,770 --> 00:13:02,910 and everything else you have to pay so 279 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,510 there are lots of ways that companies 280 00:13:02,910 --> 00:13:08,819 will brand authenticate and use the web 281 00:13:05,510 --> 00:13:11,189 but is that different now than in the 282 00:13:08,820 --> 00:13:13,800 past and and how it why is that more 283 00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:17,850 important now than far be because the 284 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:21,930 web has become so vast that you need a 285 00:13:17,850 --> 00:13:24,410 way within that these hundreds of 286 00:13:21,930 --> 00:13:28,589 millions of websites to actually rise 287 00:13:24,410 --> 00:13:30,839 today you search where you pay somebody 288 00:13:28,590 --> 00:13:33,750 so that the search results put you up 289 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,730 front but the domain name system will 290 00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:38,010 evolve as a mechanism for people to 291 00:13:35,730 --> 00:13:40,020 actually brand themselves in the 292 00:13:38,010 --> 00:13:42,420 cyberspace and as you may have heard me 293 00:13:40,020 --> 00:13:44,610 say last week in my opinion you know 294 00:13:42,420 --> 00:13:47,459 cyberspace is that there's no more 295 00:13:44,610 --> 00:13:48,660 cyberspace and learning cyber I don't 296 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:50,910 mean to take up too much time but didn't 297 00:13:48,660 --> 00:13:52,050 just using that the fact that the domain 298 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:54,060 names are so important for 299 00:13:52,050 --> 00:13:57,329 authentication certainty security 300 00:13:54,060 --> 00:13:59,489 doesn't that give more bed like suit 301 00:13:57,330 --> 00:14:00,930 doesn't that make the argument to these 302 00:13:59,490 --> 00:14:05,160 wine producers as we've been hearing 303 00:14:00,930 --> 00:14:08,040 even more yeah cereal it yes yeah 304 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:11,459 absolutely their argument is extremely 305 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:13,439 serious the question is they followed 306 00:14:11,460 --> 00:14:16,020 the process they are not done following 307 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,340 the process they should keep doing what 308 00:14:16,020 --> 00:14:20,130 they're doing follow the process that 309 00:14:17,340 --> 00:14:22,980 for example a big step there we the 310 00:14:20,130 --> 00:14:25,050 applicant themselves for dot wine and 311 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:27,990 akram could confirm that had asked for 312 00:14:25,050 --> 00:14:29,760 safeguards but the GAC where the French 313 00:14:27,990 --> 00:14:31,890 government and other governments in 314 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:35,540 Europe were trying to pursue that that 315 00:14:31,890 --> 00:14:38,670 agenda could not come to a consensus so 316 00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:40,469 you know we the board with Steve's 317 00:14:38,670 --> 00:14:42,329 leadership this week issued another 318 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:45,270 letter saying look if you guys have 319 00:14:42,330 --> 00:14:46,680 other advice if you can with the same 320 00:14:45,270 --> 00:14:49,590 passion we heard from the French 321 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,620 minister today convinced the GAC to come 322 00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:54,120 to a different 323 00:14:51,620 --> 00:14:56,880 consensus by all means we're here we're 324 00:14:54,120 --> 00:15:00,000 here to listen so I think what we need 325 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:02,220 to do is to just focus on the process 326 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,589 make sure it's fair it's open it allows 327 00:15:02,220 --> 00:15:06,870 everybody to voice themselves and not 328 00:15:04,589 --> 00:15:08,670 frankly scream that nothing is working 329 00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:11,100 when we don't get what we want because 330 00:15:08,670 --> 00:15:12,660 we often don't get what we want it's 331 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:14,940 important though to follow the process 332 00:15:12,660 --> 00:15:17,610 and they still have many steps they have 333 00:15:14,940 --> 00:15:19,769 many options I hope they will pursue 334 00:15:17,610 --> 00:15:22,759 them vigorously and with with 335 00:15:19,769 --> 00:15:27,209 transparency and openness on my side 336 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:29,519 guaranteed it's not even in this case 337 00:15:27,209 --> 00:15:30,959 getting what they want it's getting what 338 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:33,690 they want the way they wanted to get it 339 00:15:30,959 --> 00:15:37,758 they think they're really is underlined 340 00:15:33,690 --> 00:15:39,870 quite common cause authenticity and 341 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:45,029 assurance that products are the right 342 00:15:39,870 --> 00:15:47,519 products is a shared value and the the 343 00:15:45,029 --> 00:15:51,209 subtlety is exactly where do you put 344 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:54,089 those mechanisms and there are still 345 00:15:51,209 --> 00:15:57,149 many steps in many avenues available to 346 00:15:54,089 --> 00:16:00,990 provide that level of assurance and the 347 00:15:57,149 --> 00:16:04,560 particular path that the France and 348 00:16:00,990 --> 00:16:08,189 other countries pursued did not prevail 349 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,750 within the GAC so then that leads to if 350 00:16:08,189 --> 00:16:11,519 you don't get the answer you want then 351 00:16:09,750 --> 00:16:14,670 the process must be wrong kind of 352 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:19,319 thinking and I would have preferred 353 00:16:14,670 --> 00:16:24,060 would hope that the support for the 354 00:16:19,319 --> 00:16:27,209 process which is very vital and each of 355 00:16:24,060 --> 00:16:32,189 these countries will come to depend upon 356 00:16:27,209 --> 00:16:34,529 it for other things should be a value to 357 00:16:32,189 --> 00:16:37,769 be preserved and it does not mean that 358 00:16:34,529 --> 00:16:39,449 they've lost out on the core issue 359 00:16:37,769 --> 00:16:41,040 that's underlying their concern there's 360 00:16:39,449 --> 00:16:43,829 plenty of ways for that to be pursued 361 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:49,230 and I fully expect that at the end of 362 00:16:43,829 --> 00:16:53,430 the day we will not find the quality of 363 00:16:49,230 --> 00:16:57,089 wine that we drink diminished because of 364 00:16:53,430 --> 00:17:00,279 the Internet yeah I think I just wanted 365 00:16:57,089 --> 00:17:05,620 to add because this is a key issue 366 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:07,990 I ken's processes are working look at 367 00:17:05,619 --> 00:17:10,780 what happened with dot Africa look at 368 00:17:07,990 --> 00:17:13,120 what happened with dot amazon for those 369 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:15,149 who say that i can is controlled by one 370 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:18,489 interest or the other and start painting 371 00:17:15,150 --> 00:17:20,199 here's dot amazon isn't this a global 372 00:17:18,490 --> 00:17:22,240 company headquartered in the united 373 00:17:20,199 --> 00:17:24,699 states with with great products great 374 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,470 services that we all use but at the end 375 00:17:24,699 --> 00:17:29,049 of the day when the board had to make a 376 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:31,150 decision and took in the public interest 377 00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:33,039 of the people of the Amazonas and the 378 00:17:31,150 --> 00:17:36,340 countries that talk to us we made a 379 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:40,480 decision similarly without africa where 380 00:17:36,340 --> 00:17:42,730 a single applicant is filed an IRP she 381 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,590 decided that this is her right and it is 382 00:17:42,730 --> 00:17:46,990 her right and we should let her pursue 383 00:17:44,590 --> 00:17:51,039 her right even if the whole African 384 00:17:46,990 --> 00:17:53,140 Union has has a different view the right 385 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:56,289 is to say I don't agree with the 386 00:17:53,140 --> 00:18:00,429 decision so I think we should not focus 387 00:17:56,289 --> 00:18:01,720 on the one case where we could not the 388 00:18:00,429 --> 00:18:04,360 government's could not reach consensus 389 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,220 let's focus on the big picture of all 390 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:08,860 the cases where in fact the system is 391 00:18:06,220 --> 00:18:12,130 working well and is well balanced and no 392 00:18:08,860 --> 00:18:15,820 one no one is controlling I can but it's 393 00:18:12,130 --> 00:18:18,399 constituency's my name is ramin wiki I 394 00:18:15,820 --> 00:18:23,918 work for this dozens business news is in 395 00:18:18,399 --> 00:18:26,949 Lagos Nigeria to Akron I like him to 396 00:18:23,919 --> 00:18:30,820 give us invariably an update in terms of 397 00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:33,280 optic of the global domains within the 398 00:18:30,820 --> 00:18:35,740 sector and how intend to increase that 399 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:40,379 across the regions as you very well know 400 00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:44,500 we received overall 1930 applications 401 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:47,559 some of these of course are in whether 402 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:51,070 actually in contention sets so we will 403 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:54,610 probably delegate around 1300 404 00:18:51,070 --> 00:18:57,370 applications 1300 strings overall 1300 t 405 00:18:54,610 --> 00:19:01,090 of these out of those we have already 406 00:18:57,370 --> 00:19:04,649 signed 440 contracts and we have 407 00:19:01,090 --> 00:19:08,610 delegated 320 out of these 440 contracts 408 00:19:04,650 --> 00:19:11,760 I think also you've asked what are we 409 00:19:08,610 --> 00:19:16,229 doing about increasing the footprint of 410 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:19,740 the TL DS in the developing countries so 411 00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:23,190 right now as you know the rat this round 412 00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:24,870 is the application round has been closed 413 00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:27,060 so we received all the applications we 414 00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:29,699 will receive we have moved forward with 415 00:19:27,060 --> 00:19:31,320 the processing of these applications but 416 00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:34,530 we are committed to having a second 417 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:37,350 round we have also some commitments to 418 00:19:34,530 --> 00:19:39,980 do in order for us to launch the second 419 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:44,189 round we're working on these commitments 420 00:19:39,980 --> 00:19:46,230 like measuring the awareness the global 421 00:19:44,190 --> 00:19:49,830 awareness of the of the new GTR the 422 00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:54,360 program making sure that the program has 423 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:57,120 promoted the competition in the 424 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:58,979 marketplace so so we have some things 425 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:00,300 some steps to do before we can do the 426 00:19:58,980 --> 00:20:04,560 second round but we're committed to that 427 00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:07,560 and we have a lot of efforts ongoing in 428 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,300 the development world and like we have 429 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,149 the middle and Middle East we have a 430 00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:15,540 working group that is come together from 431 00:20:12,150 --> 00:20:18,960 the local community there for the Middle 432 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:20,840 East and Africa working on what they 433 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:24,930 would like to see I can do to help 434 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:29,699 promote DNS in in the region but at the 435 00:20:24,930 --> 00:20:31,710 end of the day I can cannot dictate or 436 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:33,210 cannot do things to help the region's 437 00:20:31,710 --> 00:20:35,970 they have to come and tell us what we 438 00:20:33,210 --> 00:20:37,530 can do to help them what they need in 439 00:20:35,970 --> 00:20:41,580 order for us to help them and we are 440 00:20:37,530 --> 00:20:48,540 committed to that we have also we just 441 00:20:41,580 --> 00:20:51,330 posted a working group paper on how to 442 00:20:48,540 --> 00:20:53,700 increase the number of registrar's in 443 00:20:51,330 --> 00:20:58,649 the developing world and there are a lot 444 00:20:53,700 --> 00:21:00,840 of suggestions in there for four I can 445 00:20:58,650 --> 00:21:02,880 to look into and we will consider 446 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,159 whatever the community comes back with 447 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,380 the board will look into those and 448 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,030 consider what if there are any programs 449 00:21:07,380 --> 00:21:11,550 that we should actually put in place to 450 00:21:09,030 --> 00:21:12,139 help increase number of registrar's in 451 00:21:11,550 --> 00:21:13,970 the 452 00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:17,180 in countries so there are a lot of 453 00:21:13,970 --> 00:21:19,360 programs across all of I can not the 454 00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:21,590 least of which is universal acceptance 455 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:24,590 you know universal acceptance is 456 00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:28,070 basically accepting all of the idea ends 457 00:21:24,590 --> 00:21:33,889 across multiple barriers and making sure 458 00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:37,460 that the internet the DNS works in other 459 00:21:33,890 --> 00:21:40,070 scripts and Latin these programs this 460 00:21:37,460 --> 00:21:42,080 program is also underway and let's 461 00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:44,780 remember that we've had for the first 462 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:48,560 time over a hundred applications in 463 00:21:44,780 --> 00:21:53,389 scripts not in Latin script and these 464 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:56,510 scripts enable Arabic Chinese Cyrillic 465 00:21:53,390 --> 00:21:58,790 and other other languages to coexist 466 00:21:56,510 --> 00:22:00,440 with Latin on the on the internet so 467 00:21:58,790 --> 00:22:02,389 that somebody that's looking for 468 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,250 something does not have to use multiple 469 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:06,650 keyboards they can use their native 470 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:09,170 keyboard across everything they do if 471 00:22:06,650 --> 00:22:11,660 they only use one one language in one 472 00:22:09,170 --> 00:22:14,180 script so all of these programs are 473 00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:18,230 things that the community is developing 474 00:22:14,180 --> 00:22:24,080 and making to enable the DNS and make 475 00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:26,060 the DNS a friction free system in on the 476 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,090 internet I hope that answers your 477 00:22:26,060 --> 00:22:31,040 question and if I can just add think 478 00:22:29,090 --> 00:22:32,629 about the local engagement strategies 479 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,010 that fatty has mentioned that's very 480 00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:36,500 much our aim is doing it with the local 481 00:22:34,010 --> 00:22:37,970 community there try and build capacity 482 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:39,920 and encouraging people to create more 483 00:22:37,970 --> 00:22:42,560 registrar's people to get involved in 484 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,510 new gtld programs on the ground that's 485 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,429 our major draw is to be as part of the 486 00:22:44,510 --> 00:22:48,710 globalization effort of icon is to go 487 00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:52,630 and work with the community to to be 488 00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:52,630 truly diverse across the board