1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,770 the board meeting ended roughly an hour 2 00:00:02,850 --> 00:00:06,629 ago so we want to thank both you rub 3 00:00:04,770 --> 00:00:09,149 beckstrom and you Peter dengue thrush 4 00:00:06,629 --> 00:00:10,530 for talking to us helping us get a feel 5 00:00:09,150 --> 00:00:13,040 for the actions of the board and help 6 00:00:10,530 --> 00:00:15,690 summarize what those active actions were 7 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:17,369 Peter let's start with you it was widely 8 00:00:15,690 --> 00:00:19,800 thought that the ICANN board would 9 00:00:17,369 --> 00:00:21,630 finally approve the launch of new 10 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,630 generic top-level domains of this 11 00:00:21,630 --> 00:00:26,849 meeting yet again much to the dismay of 12 00:00:24,630 --> 00:00:29,669 many of your own community members that 13 00:00:26,849 --> 00:00:31,170 didn't happen why well we're talking 14 00:00:29,670 --> 00:00:32,940 about the live running internet and 15 00:00:31,170 --> 00:00:34,440 making very dramatic changes to it and 16 00:00:32,940 --> 00:00:36,510 that's something we're going to do right 17 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,670 rather than fast we've had a lot of 18 00:00:36,510 --> 00:00:40,079 concern from members of the community 19 00:00:38,670 --> 00:00:41,640 including governments of the world that 20 00:00:40,079 --> 00:00:43,800 there's still some concerns that they 21 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,110 want sorted out before we go live now 22 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,519 the only responsible thing for us to do 23 00:00:46,110 --> 00:00:48,809 in the face of that message from our 24 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,520 community that there are still matters 25 00:00:48,809 --> 00:00:52,169 of concern is to come up with a process 26 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,120 for looking at that and resolving it and 27 00:00:52,170 --> 00:00:55,469 we've done that we have arranged a 28 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,449 meeting with the government's in 29 00:00:55,469 --> 00:00:59,219 February which will hopefully resolve 30 00:00:57,449 --> 00:01:00,449 their remaining issues but I think most 31 00:00:59,219 --> 00:01:02,129 the communities are it pleased we've 32 00:01:00,449 --> 00:01:03,750 actually closed off or signal the 33 00:01:02,129 --> 00:01:05,158 closing off a whole lot of issues which 34 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:07,020 they can now put behind them as they're 35 00:01:05,159 --> 00:01:08,549 settled and the fact that we're closing 36 00:01:07,020 --> 00:01:09,839 in on the remaining issues and that 37 00:01:08,549 --> 00:01:11,520 we've got a process for dealing with 38 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,869 those with the government's I think the 39 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,920 reaction I've had since the meeting is 40 00:01:12,869 --> 00:01:16,200 the most people are pleased with the 41 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,000 progress we've made let me follow up 42 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,920 there that the the decision of the board 43 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,060 not to move forward with the launch of 44 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:25,650 new gTLDs occurred against a backdrop of 45 00:01:23,060 --> 00:01:27,180 ICANN having received a very critical 46 00:01:25,650 --> 00:01:30,689 letter from the US Department of 47 00:01:27,180 --> 00:01:32,250 Commerce how big of a factor was that in 48 00:01:30,689 --> 00:01:34,289 the Board's decision to kick this down 49 00:01:32,250 --> 00:01:35,729 the road well that was one of the 50 00:01:34,290 --> 00:01:37,350 comments that came in as part of the 51 00:01:35,729 --> 00:01:39,060 community comments in relation to the 52 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:40,740 new gTLD program that's a feature of the 53 00:01:39,060 --> 00:01:42,210 way I can't does things we put material 54 00:01:40,740 --> 00:01:44,220 out for comment and the comment comes 55 00:01:42,210 --> 00:01:45,240 back when it comes back of course we 56 00:01:44,220 --> 00:01:46,770 that we then have to take it very 57 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,298 seriously and that's what we're doing 58 00:01:46,770 --> 00:01:49,890 that's going to be part of the process 59 00:01:48,299 --> 00:01:51,509 as we move forward to that meeting in 60 00:01:49,890 --> 00:01:53,130 February considering those issues and 61 00:01:51,509 --> 00:01:54,810 looking at the materials looking at the 62 00:01:53,130 --> 00:01:57,479 community response and eventually making 63 00:01:54,810 --> 00:02:00,659 a proper decision on that Peter will the 64 00:01:57,479 --> 00:02:02,429 februari meeting be open well we haven't 65 00:02:00,659 --> 00:02:03,600 actually resolved the rules of 66 00:02:02,430 --> 00:02:04,979 engagement with the GAC on this 67 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,469 particular meeting but the standard 68 00:02:04,979 --> 00:02:08,830 position for all organizations and I can 69 00:02:07,469 --> 00:02:11,109 is that they are open that's 70 00:02:08,830 --> 00:02:13,450 our commitment to transparency and part 71 00:02:11,110 --> 00:02:15,640 of our accountability obligations on the 72 00:02:13,450 --> 00:02:17,470 other hand if there's any at any point 73 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:19,480 one of the parties thinks that the 74 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:21,130 negotiation would be assisted by a 75 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,829 period of discussing things in private 76 00:02:21,130 --> 00:02:25,480 you know I guess we could consider that 77 00:02:22,830 --> 00:02:28,120 your gak seems to be sing to the Lord 78 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:31,000 we've been talking you want our input 79 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,920 we've been given you our input you say 80 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,720 you're listening to us but at the end of 81 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:37,000 the day you make decisions that seem to 82 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,070 indicate you didn't hear us at all is 83 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,620 there a break down here no but look I 84 00:02:39,070 --> 00:02:43,680 think that is a feature of I can we get 85 00:02:41,620 --> 00:02:48,160 public comment from enormous range of 86 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,240 institutions and people and we think we 87 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,220 could probably do a better job of 88 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,080 explaining our decisions and so one of 89 00:02:51,220 --> 00:02:54,730 the things we've we've tasked the staff 90 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,400 without this meeting is to is to spend a 91 00:02:54,730 --> 00:02:58,299 bit more time publishing the rationales 92 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,709 criticisms because everybody wants to 93 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:02,200 know you know why we've made the 94 00:02:59,709 --> 00:03:04,510 decisions we have and I I think we've 95 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,859 always taken a lot of trouble to to 96 00:03:04,510 --> 00:03:08,019 explain ourselves but I think we could 97 00:03:05,860 --> 00:03:10,090 probably do a bit better right let me 98 00:03:08,020 --> 00:03:12,430 ask you assuming let's take a 99 00:03:10,090 --> 00:03:14,980 hypothetical here that the board says in 100 00:03:12,430 --> 00:03:18,280 San Francisco at the next public meeting 101 00:03:14,980 --> 00:03:20,799 yes we're good go ahead and launch new 102 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,800 gTLDs you're the man in charge of 103 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,570 implementation is I can't read sure as 104 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,610 long as the program is largely as it's 105 00:03:25,570 --> 00:03:29,859 been outlined so far and there's not 106 00:03:27,610 --> 00:03:31,780 major structural changes to what would 107 00:03:29,860 --> 00:03:34,300 be approved by the board the answer is 108 00:03:31,780 --> 00:03:36,250 yes you both have said that most of the 109 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:37,840 major issues have been resolved you're 110 00:03:36,250 --> 00:03:39,070 going to be in February to resolve some 111 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,170 of the few remaining issues 112 00:03:39,070 --> 00:03:43,720 characterized as minor what type of 113 00:03:41,170 --> 00:03:46,480 issues exactly well they're not all 114 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,609 minor so that there's only the list is 115 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,018 smaller than it ever was one of the one 116 00:03:48,610 --> 00:03:51,970 of the issues for example as we've been 117 00:03:50,019 --> 00:03:53,950 tasked the communities call on us to do 118 00:03:51,970 --> 00:03:55,989 economic studies and in fact we've done 119 00:03:53,950 --> 00:03:57,429 five economic studies so one of our 120 00:03:55,989 --> 00:04:00,370 decisions we're not going to get any 121 00:03:57,430 --> 00:04:02,470 more useful information from further 122 00:04:00,370 --> 00:04:03,569 economic studies what we now need to do 123 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:05,489 is spend a lot of time doing 124 00:04:03,569 --> 00:04:07,319 analysis of those studies so we're 125 00:04:05,489 --> 00:04:08,730 closing off the prospect of further 126 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:10,530 studies I mean you could keep we could 127 00:04:08,730 --> 00:04:11,578 do study always do more but we've 128 00:04:10,530 --> 00:04:13,620 reached that we think the point of 129 00:04:11,579 --> 00:04:15,239 diminishing returns on that well we now 130 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:16,829 need to concentrate is on the analysis 131 00:04:15,239 --> 00:04:18,418 similarly with the other issues we've 132 00:04:16,829 --> 00:04:20,699 done a lot of work and trying to protect 133 00:04:18,418 --> 00:04:22,409 the interests of trademark owners one of 134 00:04:20,699 --> 00:04:24,479 the fundamental policy positions when we 135 00:04:22,410 --> 00:04:26,250 started this was we was that the new 136 00:04:24,479 --> 00:04:27,990 gtld program should not infringe the 137 00:04:26,250 --> 00:04:29,729 rights of others and one of the very 138 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:32,789 important rights in that area is that as 139 00:04:29,729 --> 00:04:34,889 the trademark rights we've spent a lot 140 00:04:32,789 --> 00:04:37,259 of time with the trademark community and 141 00:04:34,889 --> 00:04:38,820 we've done up three new independent 142 00:04:37,259 --> 00:04:41,490 mechanisms for protecting trademark 143 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:42,509 rights on the internet and so the sense 144 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:45,240 of the board of the sense of the 145 00:04:42,509 --> 00:04:47,310 community is is that that's probably a 146 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,500 sufficient effort in developing 147 00:04:47,310 --> 00:04:51,900 mechanisms what we now might look at is 148 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:54,720 how can we enhance or tweak or improve 149 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:55,739 those processes but we're not going to 150 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,960 we're not going to convene another 151 00:04:55,740 --> 00:04:59,310 process to look at yet another kind of 152 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,560 solution for intellectual property 153 00:04:59,310 --> 00:05:02,729 rights let me ask both you gentlemen I 154 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,530 don't think it's an overstatement to say 155 00:05:02,729 --> 00:05:06,120 after every I can meeting there is a 156 00:05:04,530 --> 00:05:08,219 certain period of digestion by the 157 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,979 community where the community digests 158 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:13,639 the board's actions the resolutions do 159 00:05:10,979 --> 00:05:16,080 you foresee at the end of that sort of 160 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:19,490 assimilation of the actions of the board 161 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,490 parce criticism 162 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:24,930 it's difficult to forecast I think 163 00:05:23,050 --> 00:05:27,010 actually you know part of a healthy 164 00:05:24,930 --> 00:05:28,750 nature of our multi stakeholder 165 00:05:27,010 --> 00:05:32,050 communities there's a lot of people to 166 00:05:28,750 --> 00:05:34,030 have strongly held opinions and and it's 167 00:05:32,050 --> 00:05:36,100 often the case that a simple consensus 168 00:05:34,030 --> 00:05:37,719 isn't reached and the board has to make 169 00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:41,290 tough decisions those often are not 170 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:43,030 popular so criticism is somewhat par for 171 00:05:41,290 --> 00:05:45,310 the course given the important mandate 172 00:05:43,030 --> 00:05:47,799 of the organization and the fact that in 173 00:05:45,310 --> 00:05:50,260 many cases these decisions are zero some 174 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,389 decisions one party gets what they want 175 00:05:50,260 --> 00:05:55,150 and another doesn't so and that's why 176 00:05:52,389 --> 00:05:56,800 the board is important to have a body 177 00:05:55,150 --> 00:05:58,630 that's been elected from the multi-state 178 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,479 trouble holder community to make those 179 00:05:58,630 --> 00:06:03,219 final decisions rod we constantly hear 180 00:06:01,479 --> 00:06:05,469 the expression multi-stakeholder in the 181 00:06:03,220 --> 00:06:08,169 context of I can what does that mean in 182 00:06:05,470 --> 00:06:09,940 terms of icons function sure what it 183 00:06:08,169 --> 00:06:11,500 means is it the people that are coming 184 00:06:09,940 --> 00:06:14,320 to the table represent different 185 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:16,540 stakeholders from the Internet at large 186 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,099 at large and particularly the domain 187 00:06:16,540 --> 00:06:20,740 name industry and the addressing 188 00:06:18,100 --> 00:06:22,570 industry so they have expertise it means 189 00:06:20,740 --> 00:06:24,820 they bring in knowledge they bring in 190 00:06:22,570 --> 00:06:27,490 subject matter expertise they bring in 191 00:06:24,820 --> 00:06:29,979 their financial interest and they bring 192 00:06:27,490 --> 00:06:32,039 in technical acumen and many other 193 00:06:29,979 --> 00:06:34,990 capabilities so that the quality of 194 00:06:32,039 --> 00:06:38,620 policies developed is much higher 195 00:06:34,990 --> 00:06:42,520 because the level of the knowledge of 196 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:44,560 the participants is is so pointed and so 197 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,240 capable so and then how do you balance 198 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,250 that and how do you facilitate that 199 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,800 process to come out with decisions 200 00:06:48,250 --> 00:06:53,169 policies and actions that are consistent 201 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,760 with the global public interest is the 202 00:06:53,169 --> 00:06:56,049 exciting part of the challenge but 203 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,610 that's the real benefit of multi 204 00:06:56,050 --> 00:07:01,389 stakeholder in one word is just 205 00:06:57,610 --> 00:07:04,360 expertise let's jump over to da xxx the 206 00:07:01,389 --> 00:07:05,950 other hot issue at this meeting the 207 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,900 resolution which the board approved 208 00:07:05,950 --> 00:07:09,880 clearly states the board intends to 209 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:13,539 enter into a registry agreement with the 210 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:16,249 ICM registry for the dot xxx sponsored 211 00:07:13,539 --> 00:07:17,779 TLD but once again that 212 00:07:16,249 --> 00:07:19,789 appears to have kicked this one down the 213 00:07:17,779 --> 00:07:21,379 road one of the rules that I can is that 214 00:07:19,789 --> 00:07:24,259 we have to take the advice from 215 00:07:21,379 --> 00:07:25,579 governments very seriously and you'd 216 00:07:24,259 --> 00:07:27,019 expect that this is the governments of 217 00:07:25,579 --> 00:07:28,639 the world coming together their 218 00:07:27,019 --> 00:07:30,199 obligation and I can their commitment to 219 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:32,269 our counters to provide us with advice 220 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:34,219 either government advisory committee 221 00:07:32,269 --> 00:07:36,229 they give us advice on matters of public 222 00:07:34,219 --> 00:07:38,029 policy of conservative governments which 223 00:07:36,229 --> 00:07:40,549 is their domain they are the experts in 224 00:07:38,029 --> 00:07:42,289 this area this is an application which 225 00:07:40,549 --> 00:07:44,299 they think has raised some area at some 226 00:07:42,289 --> 00:07:46,609 issues of public policy comment and 227 00:07:44,299 --> 00:07:49,609 they've given us advice as to what we 228 00:07:46,609 --> 00:07:50,748 should do about that application on the 229 00:07:49,610 --> 00:07:52,249 other hand we get advice from other 230 00:07:50,749 --> 00:07:54,199 parts of the community and we have to 231 00:07:52,249 --> 00:07:57,409 take our own advice legal advice and 232 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:59,089 various other things that advice looks 233 00:07:57,409 --> 00:08:03,049 like it may be that we are about to 234 00:07:59,089 --> 00:08:04,549 depart from gac advice written of the 235 00:08:03,049 --> 00:08:06,019 bylaws we have an obligation if that's 236 00:08:04,549 --> 00:08:07,938 to happen as do we have to have a good 237 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:09,619 faith and timely consultation with a gap 238 00:08:07,939 --> 00:08:11,299 to try and bridge the gap it may be that 239 00:08:09,619 --> 00:08:13,459 if we get together we can resolve the 240 00:08:11,299 --> 00:08:15,318 issues and proceed together it may be 241 00:08:13,459 --> 00:08:17,899 that having gone through that process we 242 00:08:15,319 --> 00:08:19,669 can't at that stage provided we can our 243 00:08:17,899 --> 00:08:21,049 reasons to the government advisory 244 00:08:19,669 --> 00:08:22,818 committee about why we're not taking 245 00:08:21,049 --> 00:08:24,198 their advice we're free to move forward 246 00:08:22,819 --> 00:08:27,199 on the path that the community has 247 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:29,599 chosen so that resolution is just part 248 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:33,529 of their prices Peter summarize for us 249 00:08:29,599 --> 00:08:35,208 if you will Gaetz feelings about da XXX 250 00:08:33,529 --> 00:08:37,719 and the role that please and the 251 00:08:35,208 --> 00:08:39,828 decision-making process will appear 252 00:08:37,719 --> 00:08:41,689 there's a number of views from different 253 00:08:39,828 --> 00:08:45,410 members of the gag the GAC hasn't ever 254 00:08:41,688 --> 00:08:47,689 reached a unanimous position I'll there 255 00:08:45,410 --> 00:08:49,309 and has done a number of things it's 256 00:08:47,689 --> 00:08:51,649 asked for further information about how 257 00:08:49,309 --> 00:08:53,899 the contractual performance will be 258 00:08:51,649 --> 00:08:55,250 guaranteed it's complained about some 259 00:08:53,899 --> 00:08:56,300 other aspects so there's a range of 260 00:08:55,250 --> 00:08:59,540 opinion and in the gut 261 00:08:56,300 --> 00:09:01,279 advisory committee we think that we'll 262 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:02,599 be able to negotiate with them get get 263 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:05,450 clarity on what the difference is 264 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,070 between us and will either come to some 265 00:09:05,450 --> 00:09:09,019 compromise on that or we'll have to 266 00:09:07,070 --> 00:09:10,430 dispatch is on this occasion to disagree 267 00:09:09,019 --> 00:09:12,050 with the government advisory committee 268 00:09:10,430 --> 00:09:13,370 and I don't have any problem with that 269 00:09:12,050 --> 00:09:16,189 as a matter of principle the principle 270 00:09:13,370 --> 00:09:18,350 itself appears and the bylaws and it's 271 00:09:16,190 --> 00:09:20,029 one of the really strong features and 272 00:09:18,350 --> 00:09:22,760 it'll be a sign of the maturation of I 273 00:09:20,029 --> 00:09:25,820 can when we can have a disagreement get 274 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,620 over it and move on the reality as many 275 00:09:25,820 --> 00:09:29,660 people think that I can would be afraid 276 00:09:27,620 --> 00:09:31,339 not to listen to the gap you seem to be 277 00:09:29,660 --> 00:09:32,719 indicating that's not the case it's not 278 00:09:31,339 --> 00:09:33,920 a question of fear it's a question of 279 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,500 making sure that we've taken all 280 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,839 relevant views into consideration it's 281 00:09:36,500 --> 00:09:40,850 true that on previous occasions we've 282 00:09:38,839 --> 00:09:42,620 taken the advice of the GAC into 283 00:09:40,850 --> 00:09:44,149 consideration and that's largely a 284 00:09:42,620 --> 00:09:45,950 testament to the quality of advice that 285 00:09:44,149 --> 00:09:47,390 you'd expect as we get from the 286 00:09:45,950 --> 00:09:49,100 governments of the world ever now then 287 00:09:47,390 --> 00:09:50,269 we're going to disagree it's not because 288 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:52,760 we don't like each other it's because 289 00:09:50,269 --> 00:09:54,170 we've the community has one view and the 290 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,959 government's who you might expect to be 291 00:09:54,170 --> 00:09:58,399 conservative or cautious exactly if I 292 00:09:56,959 --> 00:10:00,229 can contributor what Peter is saying you 293 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:01,490 know we have the government advisory 294 00:10:00,230 --> 00:10:02,930 committee or what we call the GAC we 295 00:10:01,490 --> 00:10:04,520 also have the at-large advisory 296 00:10:02,930 --> 00:10:06,020 committee call a lack we already had 297 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,390 also have the root server Advisory 298 00:10:06,020 --> 00:10:10,010 Committee call our SEC we also have the 299 00:10:08,390 --> 00:10:12,319 security and stability advisory 300 00:10:10,010 --> 00:10:13,850 committee called the s sac and then 301 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,170 we've got many other constituencies in 302 00:10:13,850 --> 00:10:18,020 stakeholder groups so there's many 303 00:10:15,170 --> 00:10:20,360 different voices here and I think that 304 00:10:18,020 --> 00:10:22,610 that i can has really done its best to 305 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:25,930 balance those voices and to find a 306 00:10:22,610 --> 00:10:29,020 constructive consensus in the middle 307 00:10:25,930 --> 00:10:34,729 it's been stated repeatedly that i can 308 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:36,529 considers doc XXX as a sort of for lack 309 00:10:34,730 --> 00:10:39,020 of a better word a test case of its 310 00:10:36,529 --> 00:10:41,730 accountability procedure procedures and 311 00:10:39,020 --> 00:10:45,000 measures is it passing that test 312 00:10:41,730 --> 00:10:46,709 I think it is I think I said earlier 313 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,779 it's very clear this is an applicant who 314 00:10:46,709 --> 00:10:50,670 came forward in a program was voted down 315 00:10:48,779 --> 00:10:52,709 by the board felt that it had a case to 316 00:10:50,670 --> 00:10:55,529 make went away used one of our processes 317 00:10:52,709 --> 00:10:57,180 to make its case one that case has come 318 00:10:55,529 --> 00:10:58,889 back and has now gone back into the 319 00:10:57,180 --> 00:11:01,109 process again it was moving forward so 320 00:10:58,889 --> 00:11:05,100 that seems to be a perfect example of 321 00:11:01,110 --> 00:11:07,740 the processes working in favor of you 322 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:09,300 know particular applicant right let me 323 00:11:07,740 --> 00:11:12,089 put this question to you there's been 324 00:11:09,300 --> 00:11:13,670 some criticism among people walking the 325 00:11:12,089 --> 00:11:17,100 hallways during the card on your meeting 326 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:18,959 questioning ICANN's true commitment to 327 00:11:17,100 --> 00:11:21,209 transparency and accountability what's 328 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:23,760 your response sure we're extremely 329 00:11:21,209 --> 00:11:25,680 committed ever ever since the day that 330 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,110 you know a moment I sign that contract 331 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:32,010 with the US government committed both 332 00:11:28,110 --> 00:11:33,990 those parties in the ICANN board staff 333 00:11:32,010 --> 00:11:35,310 and community to working on the 334 00:11:33,990 --> 00:11:37,350 principles of accountability 335 00:11:35,310 --> 00:11:39,630 transparency and I've started both a 336 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:42,060 top-down effort in the organization took 337 00:11:39,630 --> 00:11:44,820 one of my vice presidents and made her 338 00:11:42,060 --> 00:11:46,800 directly an advisor to me to the CEO on 339 00:11:44,820 --> 00:11:48,510 accountability transparency showing my 340 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,399 top down commitment and then we started 341 00:11:48,510 --> 00:11:54,089 a bottom-up process to the organization 342 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:55,440 and we have dozens of projects and 343 00:11:54,089 --> 00:11:57,389 initiatives we've done one of which we 344 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,180 just launched here which is that we've 345 00:11:57,389 --> 00:12:02,069 taken every single board resolution in I 346 00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:05,339 can history and believe it or not 347 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:07,079 there's more than 900 and cited what 348 00:12:05,339 --> 00:12:09,029 actions have been taken to fulfill those 349 00:12:07,079 --> 00:12:11,388 resolutions and linking related 350 00:12:09,029 --> 00:12:13,410 documents exactly the kind of thing the 351 00:12:11,389 --> 00:12:15,449 affirmation of commitments itself asked 352 00:12:13,410 --> 00:12:17,579 for so I think that we can always get 353 00:12:15,449 --> 00:12:20,699 better every organization can improve 354 00:12:17,579 --> 00:12:22,079 and we continue to focus on that and at 355 00:12:20,699 --> 00:12:24,089 the same time though one has to 356 00:12:22,079 --> 00:12:25,949 recognize the tremendous accomplishments 357 00:12:24,089 --> 00:12:27,540 of this board staff and community and 358 00:12:25,949 --> 00:12:29,219 what they've built over the last 12 359 00:12:27,540 --> 00:12:33,170 years gentlemen thank you very much 360 00:12:29,220 --> 00:12:33,170 thank you thank you very