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hello everyone my name is elin

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shivoh i am senior advisor on digital

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policy at the european people's party in

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brussels and today joining us

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at the globsec brettislava forum 2021

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is brad smith president of microsoft

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brad smith

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it's an honor and a true pleasure to

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welcome you as part of the globe segment

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forum 2021

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thank you so much for joining us today

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well thank you it's nice to see you

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again and i feel like we're almost in

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the same room but

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not the way we were the last time i was

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in brussels and i i look forward to my

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next trip

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and we're looking forward to seeing you

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in brussels again and i think i can

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speak for the entire team when saying

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that the forum is grateful

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for this opportunity to hear your

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insights today on how we can bridge the

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gap

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on the you know the digital marketplace

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through a renewed or refreshed eu

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us data agenda now the covid19 pandemic

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has accelerated the use of the

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technologies now we've used it to

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control the virus

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and it's spread and also on research and

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we've developed those effective

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vaccines but also to ensure that people

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could stay connected

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and safe online as well at home so

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clearly digital

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was here to help and to avoid further

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disruptions

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and just as clear as how technology is

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what will help us

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dealing with the consequences of of the

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pandemic you know to reboot our economy

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and restart

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uh you know with the recovery if we

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allow of course the technology to

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flourish so we really have

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this great opportunity to better manage

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and foster the efficient use

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and sound deployment of technology so in

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this context

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there's great momentum especially this

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week when it comes to digital policy in

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the relations between the us and the eu

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and i'd like to start by asking you why

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do you think this transatlantic

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partnership and this dialogue are so

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important

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in this what should be its role in

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restarting the the economy especially in

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the digital

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era and and also what are the conditions

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that the us and eu

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should enable together in the data

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economy for

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for us you know to to be able to use

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technologies better and quicker perhaps

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even to predict future crisis

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well first of all i think you've framed

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the issue really well and just when we

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think about where we are in the world

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today

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as you put it you know the world runs on

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digital technology the world runs on

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data

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and that's true for each of the

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communities and countries in which we

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and it's going to become each even more

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each and every year i think the first

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thing we have to do is just

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ensure that the issues around digital

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technology and data

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are indeed playing a central visible

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explicit role in the eu

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us agenda we won't deal with these

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issues well if we don't give them the

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attention that they deserve

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second i think we need to recognize that

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the flow of data across the atlantic

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is perhaps even more important than the

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flow of people and the flow of people is

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something we've been suffering from a

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lack of and

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we need to get people and data

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continuing to move on an ongoing basis

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to do that we need to recognize i think

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a third thing

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and that's the critical need to put in

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common or at least consistent rules

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that really respect the values on each

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side of the atlantic

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certainly in europe data needs to be

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protected in a manner that is consistent

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with european values that conforms with

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european law

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of course i like to remind my friends in

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the united states where i live that

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our american values frankly are rooted

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in european values they

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come from europe and i think we need to

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then start to work through the specific

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challenges

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and take them one by one recognizing

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that some of them are hard

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but we need to make progress across the

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thank you very much and let's hope the

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message will come clear

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uh to uh to the u.s and the eu as their

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meeting in brussels

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now with this new biden administration

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transatlantic partnership and relations

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seem to be back on track and

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both partners seem to be rooting for you

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know fresher and stronger dialogue

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on tech and trade but let's be honest

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there are some unresolved

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critical issues let's let's let's

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use that term when it comes to data

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governance so what do you think should

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well if you have one or two main

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priorities that both partners

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uh must really address to preserve and

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strengthen their relations and their

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impact and maybe some of the concrete

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ways in which they should do so maybe

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you know what kind of data governance or

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agreements could help us

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through it well i i do think that things

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are moving in a common and positive

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direction and you see governments on

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both sides of the atlantic

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that want to work together that want to

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make things work and i think that's

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welcome news

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for everyone because we all depend on

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this flow of data

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i think the clear starting point frankly

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to come to terms with the issues that

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are front and center in the wake of the

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shrems ii decision we are

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dealing with something that is just sort

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of one step

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short of a genuine crisis in the ability

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to move data across the atlantic the

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ability of european companies

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to do business in the united states the

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ability of my company to do business in

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europe and support european customers

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so i think the sooner we can get

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something in place that both sides of

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the atlantic feel good about

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the better but i also think that we not

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only need to move

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fast we need to act with a level of

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ambition

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the issues that we're seeing around data

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and privacy

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are obviously sort of going around and

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around again we've been at this now for

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as the safe harbor was replaced by the

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privacy shield and now we're at it again

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and i think what it really requires is

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longer term deeper and more stable

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agreement between governments

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foundation in the cloud act that was

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passed by the u.s congress in 2017 that

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creates the legal authority for the

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executive branch

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to enter into an agreement with say

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european governments to negotiate with

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the european commission uh and i think

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more broadly than that i think that that

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we may have a period of time

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where the u.s has to consider some

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statutory changes

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but we just have to rebuild the

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foundation

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so that there is the kind of trust that

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the transatlantic relationship really

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from the commission and the u.s

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administration that there is definitely

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a handshake

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that's really about to materialize

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through this u.s eu

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tech and trade transatlantic council and

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many areas where both can collaborate

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i have a question actually still on this

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uh because you know in your your

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wonderful book tools and weapons which

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you published in in 2019

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you wrote to regulate technologies that

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are bigger than themselves governments

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will need to work together and indeed

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there are various areas for mutual

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engagement on which

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you know would be critical for the eu

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and the us to work together you know it

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would be

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mutually beneficial in order to pull

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resources you know share each other's uh

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us assets and strength and we have many

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also be indispensable for our respective

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resilience and our agenda i know the

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critical systems and our infrastructure

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have come under attack you know with

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disrupted operations especially towards

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vital infrastructure like hospitals what

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are some of the ways in which you

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the tech industry and in particular

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microsoft can play

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a supportive role in ensuring um you

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know more resilience in cyber security

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globally but also of course acting as a

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as part of the transatlantic relations

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interesting question and one of the

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things i would just start with

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is at a time when there is rightly so

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much discussion about digital

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sovereignty

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we should recognize that there is no

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digital sovereignty without

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cyber security and we really need to

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strengthen cyber security protection

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around the world and across the board um

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certainly i think that responsibility in

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many ways is on our shoulders

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at microsoft and other tech companies we

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need to keep

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strengthening the features that provide

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cybersecurity protection

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and i think even more than that we need

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to keep making these features

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easier for organizations and companies

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and governments and individuals to use

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the second thing that i just think has

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that every time we've really dug deep to

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understand what happened with the cyber

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attack and we

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really worked with customers to see you

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know what had happened within their

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what we found was a common trait

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people became victims in large part

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because they did not necessarily deploy

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all of the protections that exist

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i think we need to help governments and

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ngos use a short but

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critical list of features if people are

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in their own building

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they have to be patching the server

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better yet they should probably move to

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the cloud so they don't have to keep

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patching their machines and a

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company that runs cloud services will do

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it's just an imperative that we have

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that are using anti-malware and using it

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on

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all of their machines that they're using

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multi-factor

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access that they're ensuring their

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network administrators

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follow what's called lease privilege

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access meaning they only have access to

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the part of the network that they need

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to work on

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yet they're running on the principles of

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what we call a zero trust environment

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in other words run your network on the

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assumption that

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someday someone will get inside it but

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don't let them run

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wild when they're there so you tie down

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your devices with the kinds of services

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that we and others

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run and perhaps above all else use the

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authentication

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keys the keys that are used the password

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so to speak by your administrators

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to you know manage and access your your

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email your documents

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store them in a secure location either

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on a secure hardware device or

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in the cloud if there's one thing that i

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think so

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many of the attendees of this meeting

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share in common

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is that frankly almost all of you are

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high

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on the list of priorities

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for an attack we follow this every day

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from russia from iran from china from

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north korea

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and people who work in government people

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who work for think tanks people who work

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at ngos

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yeah you need to think about this

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because believe me unfortunately

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our adversaries are thinking about you

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thank you so much uh brett smith yeah

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it's been a difficult year uh

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for you know cyber security but i think

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both the eu and the us are taking it

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seriously i actually

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believe the u.s has elevated cyber hacks

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to the same level as terrorism

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in terms of the threat and i liked how

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you recall the role of

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tech industry in this by making sure all

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these agreements don't remain just

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a political high-level exercise

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so thank you very much for all these

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insights and for being

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with us today it was a privilege well

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thank you it's great conversation and uh

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it's great to be here with everyone

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thank you very much

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thank you very much thank you very much

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you all um for

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following us um now we're going back to

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bratislava

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i'd like to wish everyone on behalf of

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the great globsec

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team a wonderful event and i hope you

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will enjoy taking part in those

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insightful and stimulating conversations

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we hope to see you soon thank you