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so
so good morning and welcome everyone
here in a room and thank you for
everyone also who are joining us to the
online channels
i'm extremely delighted to be able to
moderate a panel on
a 5g future not just smoke and mirrors
my name is anet numa and i'm a digital
transformation advisor from the estonia
briefing center
and also in the next 45 minutes i will
be moderating this panel so i will be
your moderator here
so making sure that all the eu
businesses and citizens have timely
access to 5g governance is very
essential
uh to make ensure that our market is
very well functioning
and also competitive uh the coveted 19
pandemic hash showed us the importance
of her silence and high-speed
communication
for remote working in our daily lives
and to maintain businesses
operations and of course also different
processes
5g is also one of the one of the seven
flagships areas of recovery funds
a significant share of its target 150
billion euros
on digital budget should finance you
network
infrastructures as well in the future a
fast connectivity has a large
impact on economic and innovation and
social well-being
but is a proper 5g network connection
and coverage
only enough for the eu to be competitive
in a region
in the world so this is exactly what we
are going to discuss today here
with our wonderful experts were sadly
joining me virtually and not here on a
stage
first i'm very happy to introduce our
first panelist who is michelle von
belinkin
who works as a chairman in berkeley and
mr
juan bellingham has a master of law he
has been elected to serve
as a chair of peric since 2021. so
welcome
secondly we have piers aldon who who
works as a director
in future networks in the european
commission digiconnect and he is dealing
with the policy developments
research as regard 5g networks iot
cloud and data flows service platforms
next generation
internet as well here and as a third
person last cherry on a cake here
we have ulf person who is the head of
the government
and industry relations in ericsson and
if i'm correct he is joining us all the
way from sweden
so hello to us vote um so uh mr
person is responsible for the telecom
and regulatory trade policy
at ericsson and leveraging over 30 years
of experience in government
and telecommunications he is also the
architect of the company's strategy
focus and developing
strong ties between the government and
regulations around all the world
but before i'm going to kick up with my
first question here there is also a
couple of housekeeping rules as well
here so if our audience wants to engage
with this panel here i would kindly
suggest you
also to ask questions there is three
options for that first of all all these
people that i have together here in a
room
you can just raise your hand and then we
can give you the microphone so please
just let us know
if you do have any questions and the
second option
uh to people that are joining us also
virtually
you can also ask questions over the
klopsec app which is working
over the and and then the last option of
course is to connect over
zoom uh to the virtual studio as well so
you can also
ask your questions there and please do
use this chance um because not every day
uh you get to ask about file to your
future from such experts that we have
together with me here today
okay um so starting with the very first
question the gig
of our panel discussion here so i do
have a question that is
mostly addressed now uh to olive firstly
so what are the necessary and urgent
next steps to build
out nationwide full of iot network in
europe
thank you annette and i'm sorry not to
be able to join you in in
beautiful bratislava so i mean first let
me just
emphasize that europe really needs high
performing full
g full 5g networks now to stay
competitive because as we see
leading regions in asia and north
america or
as we speak uh deploying nationwide
uh 5g use using mid band spectrum
providing gigabit speeds to users
and and creating a very high performance
of
the network everywhere across country
and we saw that also in the the latest
ericsson mobility report that we
published earlier this week that
europe is falling behind i mean
northeast asia is leading
ahead of north america and also the gcc
countries in the middle east
ahead of europe when it comes to 5g
rollout
and high performing 5g full 5g networks
i should say
they must be seen as a critical digital
infrastructure
they are a cornerstone of our society
and and our economy and they will
support the economic and social recovery
also from from kovit and high
performance
full 5g uh coverage is enabled of a
mid-band spectrum and is required to
enable
new advanced use cases because we also
have to recognize that
the so the first phase of 5g will mean
enhanced
mobile broadband is sort of a 4g on
steroids if you like
but when we move to full 5g uh based on
what we call standalone 5g architecture
that will really
uh make a revolutionary change
uh since it will offer low latency fast
response times
and enabling automation and
virtualization and network slicing
capabilities
so so we really need to move to that
stage uh
soon in europe as well thank you
and i would also address this question
to beers you are telling us
impossibles am i correct you have any
comments on what
uh ulf was saying
well good morning annette uh good
morning to all i am very sorry that i'm
not with you
uh in bratislava but thank you for the
invitation
it is the case that we see
global competitors in other regions of
the world
making great advances we do have some
good cases
in the european union with countries
that are
reaching even 80 percent coverage even
before we come to what will refer to as
the
the standalone 5g so
5g role has been progressing very well
in some areas
but of course not still providing the
true dynamic
ultra high speed low latency networks
that we need
we do have you know a target a set of
targets in europe
and they have for the rollout of 5g
depended to a large extent on
spectrum deployment the licensing of
spectrum
and while we did have success in
identifying
the three pioneer bands for radio
spectrum
that gave us also a sense of purpose and
it allowed for some coordination
it's not just enough with the first wave
of licensing to have coverage what we
need is
the mid-band spectrum to be available
and operational
for those applications which i've just
mentioned but which are very critical
because they will create the demand for
5g
services particularly from business
users
from the vertical sectors who will use
this high speed
reliable ultra secure network capacity
for all of their operations and services
so for business to business services
but also for internal organization and
for the digitalization
of all aspects of the value chain and
that is really what 5g is about it is
that shift
which we still have to
mainstream in europe in order for people
to understand
that this is critical for our
competitiveness
it's critical actually for our economic
recovery
from the covet crisis and it will
provide
a basis for innovation for productivity
and of course uh for competitiveness as
i've said for all sectors
of of the industry now uh we can come
back to the questions
of comparing ourselves to other regions
but the fact is that
europe's future is in its hands and we
now need to seize the opportunity
of 5g which is ready to be deployed
thank you for your opening remarks as
well here for the first question i would
now turn all the way to mihil
i do not know which city you're joining
us at the moment
but i also have a question for you we
know that
the european uh commission has deployed
a fight action plan
can we say that the implementation of
five teach strategy
has been successful so far and what has
been the biggest challenges in the
process
so thank you very much annette and uh
hello
everybody and and again sorry not to be
here uh
with you in in bratislava so um
and thank you also for giving me the the
opportunity
to explain the role of barrick as
a facilitator in the in the process i
i i think that uh it's it's totally
clear for us
that we have made promoting the full
connectivity as one of our
key priorities for the five uh coming
years and
this means that we prioritize the work
that improves general
conditions for the the expansion and
the take-up of secure reliable and
competitive
networks in the
very high capacity networks both fixed
and mobile while entering the transition
from
a legacy infrastructure so we just
don't only focus on the 5g coverage
emf issues but also less visible
aspects such as uh backhoe and and the
copper uh switch off
and of course um when you look at the
digital agenda there is
a lot of european instruments
need to need to be implemented and yes
so far it's not totally the case the
first one is
is of course the the timely
implementation of the
european electronic communications codes
you you know that
24 countries i received an ins
friesement letter from from the
commission a few a few
weeks ago in addition to that you need
to to implement
the barrack guidelines in helping
a a consistent and harmonized
implementation of the cause
beric has adopted a dozen of um
guidelines uh so far there is a
connectivity toolbox
to ensure a timely in investment
friendly access to 5g
uh spectrum please just refer to to the
need to get access to
a 5g spectrum as soon as possible
there is also an instrument to um
reduce the costs the administrative
costs and civil engineering costs
um so the the review of the broadened
cost
reduction is still underway and it will
really help the implementation of this
agenda
more specifically on 5g there is a
roadmap and when we look at this roadmap
we come to the conclusion there are many
aspects to be
taken into consideration some of them
i've just mentioned but also
coverage indicates uh international
plumbing
and that's what we are working on within
uh
barrack we have a dedicated workflow on
5g
cyber security for the the
implementation of
5g toolbox there will be a report on on
backhaul which is
important as well we just had two weeks
ago a
workshop on the impact of 5g on
regulations
with stakeholders like uh
representatives of verticals
we will have other workshops on coverage
and and and indicators
and also you i i have just finally to
mention that we developed last year
a raider 5g right there which describes
in details the next steps
we need to uh undertake to
for for the coming years so yes
the digital agenda is is not
totally uh a reality and we still need
to push her at
uh for for 5g over to you and it
yeah thank you uh when we when we talk
about like different countries how far
they are currently with the
implementation
process inside of the european union i
would say we see drastic changes
drastical like differences as well and
and in time it has changed a lot
uh how could the european union and push
and help the member states with this
development process
and past possible ways and you to speed
up the process of development in
different countries so i would turn this
question uh first to
peers and and then maybe you can also
add something from your site
certainly yes thank you because that is
very important we're not just taking a
punitive view to whether or not member
states have implemented regulation
it's actually the work that we've been
doing for over five years with the
industry
including with the 5g industry
association which has been the focus of
our research and innovation work
and that is really helping for their the
the development of the 5g technologies
but now
helping with the deployment to overcome
bottlenecks
but also simply to provide some of the
uh the funding that might be required to
ensure that it is rolled out across
uh the european union more importantly
and this goes back to what i was saying
earlier but we do believe that the real
driver
for 5g uptake the full 5g will be the
business use cases the verticals who
will be able to apply
5g technologies to improving all aspects
of their operations
uh become more innovative and also to
drive down cost
so those new business ecosystems are
essential we have
several major uh pilots across several
countries
uh funded already in order to show the
user groups in key sectors
like transport and mobility like health
even in agri-food for example
as to the full scope of applications of
5g
and now to answer your question it is of
course the next step how do we
globalize this how do we make sure that
it happens everywhere we are working
with
an alliance of operators in the alliance
on cloud and edge
to ensure that the next generation of
technologies is
fully incorporated into 5g because
we will increasingly be seeing cloud
computing
as something that is sitting beside the
5g networks out at the edge of those
networks and that's essential
for europe we're also looking simply at
funding in the recovery and resilience
funds
that the european council agreed and
which is now in place
the member states in a number of
countries have included
5g elements deployment elements in their
national recovery plans that will go
work together with investment funding
from eu invest that is available for
large-scale infrastructure projects
and we're also of course thinking of the
cross-border elements and we have the
connected european facility
in which we will ensure that major
transport paths that cross
european borders are actually fully
equipped
with 5g standalone 5g in order to
support
all of the logistics and transport
necessary for the smooth running of the
european internal market
so that's a lot of different activities
where
you you asked michelle about the 5g
action plan
we will together be able to meet our
objectives we have the commercial
rollout
of 5g in
in all countries but now we must ensure
that we meet our next targets
which is to ensure coverage of all of
the population
as well as developing these business
cases so i won't go into any more detail
but we already have more than
30 private 5g networks established in
around 10 member states
with eu funding which are serving the
purpose of piloting 5g services
in different sectors and business
sectors
and it shows that there's a pent-up
demand there
businesses eager to start testing and
using 5g services
so the member states have to get that
spectrum
available and licensed to operators
so that we can actually benefit from 5g
thank you for the overview and and now i
would turn to you well if
but but also i would add a question here
um you've been working together with
many different member states and and how
do you see
why is the attitude towards 5g
implementation so different in member
states
how has your experience been with that
yeah
thanks for that annette and first let me
just uh echo what
what what peers said here that that uh
there are significant
values and benefits attached to to
to uh connecting industries and
agriculture
uh uh we we worked with analysis mason
to make uh
uh uh sort of an economic review of the
benefits
of uh 5g for for for businesses
and we saw that the benefits uh were uh
the highest benefits were when it comes
to smart manufacturing and actually
smart
agriculture uh we saw that the the
sort of uh cost-benefit ratio of
investments were six times
uh with with the 40 plus billion of
investments you can
you can see a potential of more than 250
billion
euros so so i think uh there are some
really good examples here
uh but at the definitely smart factories
smart agriculture uh including fixed
wireless access based on 5g
will be the main beneficiaries when it
comes to to uh
to uh to to 5g in the business sector
but we should also remember that there
will be environmental
uh benefits because 5g is also green and
it very
much supports not only
the digital transformation of europe but
also
the green transformation and we see that
the benefits flowing there are will be
definitely when it comes to smart
factories but also in agriculture in
construction
and of course uh smart automotive
and if you see which which uh
countries are setting good examples uh
and yes coming back to the issue of
coverage and and
as as pierce mentioned earlier there are
some countries that have reached a very
high 5g uh broad coverage
geographical coverage and that means
that you offer this innovation this
fantastic
innovation platform for all of your
certified all of your businesses is not
selected just in
the main cities or in in some areas
and that i think is the most most
important and that is also
coming back to the spectrum issue making
mid band
spectrum available but also uh in
investment friendly conditions
and i'm sure also the pilots that pierce
mentioned can can play a vital role here
and once again coming back to the rrf i
mean recovery
resilience funds i think the the
all the 27 uh governments of the eu
should should
really ensure to make the best possible
use of these and also to speeding up
uh 5g all right thanks for the year with
you as well from your side
um our audience is actually pretty
active today so we have received already
a couple of questions sam so i will also
address them as well here
tyson parker has asked here how can
europe ensure
that age of computing and open air a n
infrastructure are not eventually
dominated by us-based hipper scalers
maybe miho you would like to answer that
one here
yes thank you very much and it's
so i think that europe is
already investigating this type of model
but as
as you can probably see also in the 5g
observatory it's
to be considered as not a major yet so
some
different companies have also invested
to see to which extent open rent could
uh
offer a solution and i think that um
ulf is very well placed to to to tell
some more about that and this is
definitely something
we will go through with the national
regulators in the coming
years but uh for for the time uh
being it is not uh or our priority will
we will i would say stick to
a more classical approach of uh
vendors and build out of
those 5g networks as they were
announced but uh still it is it is a a
valid point
and we we know we we have to make the
assessments
of the pros and the cons of such
technologies but this is definitely
something
we will go through in the in the coming
years over to you and it
thank you um we're coming to the
questions also from the audience here so
kindly do you repair your questions
uh i would just ask my question now and
and then you have also time to just
stand up
and ask your question here so so my
question first before we go here um to
the audience is
what needs to happen so that 5g becomes
a driving platform for innovation and
competitiveness
across europe i would turn this question
now all the way to pierce
uh thank you well first of all i'm going
to sound very boring but
i have to say the first thing is that we
have the spectrum
uh pioneer bands made available and
particularly the mid bands as we already
moved towards the high bands
why it's because a lot of the low
latency but also you know high
data bearing capacity will be on that
mid band
that that's that's a message i just have
to hammer home
but then of course there's a lot more to
do we have to facilitate 5g deployments
everywhere so as well as the finance
models which we don't uh kid ourselves
that the the european union financial
contribution
is still a very small amount of the
overall investment required
so what we have to do is that we have to
not just
push and support mnos but help them to
convince the investment community about
the solidity of the investment case
for a rapid rollout and that comes as
i've said
partly from the demand for the new
business models
where very important european
industries such as the automotive
industry are already
pushing to move to to what i would say a
fully 5g
world fully 5g enabled world for every
element
of their production line every element
of the ecosystem and value chain
and that will be reproduced across
different business sectors
that will give us not just the um
the innovation it will also give us
greater security
as industry as all aspects of the
economy and society become more relevant
and more dependent on communications
technologies
and in doing all of that we do actually
have to look and this is a challenge for
the regulators that
michel needs we also have to look at
using our regulatory tools to allow more
shared infrastructure
particularly in remote locations
particularly in terms of the deployment
of base stations
we also have to increase capacity in
areas where it wouldn't be
profitable for one operator to invest on
their own
in the networks and we think that that
will pay back
to the economy and to the society as a
whole
we do also have to see some imagination
and enterprise in europe
5g provides a great opportunity
for new business cases for new
innovations so that is not just meeting
the needs
of businesses at the moment but actually
developing new business cases
and the last aspect but it's a very
important one is actually with regard to
public administrations
and public organizations and authorities
who can avail of 5g to modernize
their service provision to drive down
cost
and make their services more attractive
not just to the public but also again
to the business communities so that they
can encourage
for example the development of smes
in clusters not necessarily near to main
cities
which will have a great beneficial
effect but which will be
empowered and enabled by the compute
power of
5g and edge computing working together i
could go on
but the the fact is that the technology
has all the promise and we now must
avail of that thank you i would actually
ask you to send me a question also from
willif
do you have anything to add regarding
how to
make 5g become becoming also a driving
platform for innovation
across europe yeah yeah thank you for
that
and and uh i think it's really important
to stress that
this is not a technology issue
technology is here it's be
being rolled out it's it's uh high
capacity networks
and it's uh sort of only about creating
the right
enabling conditions for for rollout also
in europe and coming
catching up i would say with uh with
other
uh regions uh of the world and it's uh
uh it's i mean we are coming back to the
same
key messages here it's it's about
mid-band spectrum
it's about also stimulating uh uh
uh use cases for for for businesses uh
in particular who will be the main
beneficiaries of of
full 5g and it's also uh
about uh public funding it will play an
important role
i'm sure and and will the rrf uh uh
uh becoming operational in in many
member states
uh uh more and more uh that will play
play
a a vital role here uh and
uh as also pierce was was uh referring
to
uh uh to to uh create the right
incentives
uh uh when it comes to investments and
that's it's about predictability of the
regulatory environment
and also ensure that the operators
have visibility and predictability when
it comes to
the license conditions etc so there is a
setup and we
there's no rocket science here we we
know what what what is being required
and just to to apply that now and then
i think europe has a bright future for
5g
great um then i also i would like both
of you appears and
i know to talk about a little bit more
defiantly corridors
um there is a vision pen new 5g creators
for connected and automated mobility
can you maybe elaborate this a little
bit more in details
maybe pierce you go ahead first sure i'm
very happy to
um it has always been our wish
that we have first of all large-scale
pilots sort of
the deployment at scale of 5g
to show business industry and
governments just
what it can provide and the the idea of
the theme
of 5g corridors on major transport paths
crisscrossing european countries
will also bring another key issue that
we want to develop which is that this is
for the digital single market
there will be regulatory challenges
there again but if we think of one of
the key use cases we've been looking at
which is
an extension of manufacturing is
actually the logistics and transport
business
where as we saw during covid if we
have blockages at borders then the
single market stops working
and very quickly business runs into
trouble we run into supply chains to the
extent that people
are worried about food not appearing on
the shelves of their supermarkets
now 5g offers a lot more than that but
this is a great example where
by ensuring continuous 5g coverage
of these transport paths as they cross
from one country
into another you will have the full
benefits of internet of things
of edge computing and simply of logistic
manager in control
it means greater efficiency including
the environmental benefits and transport
but also if we are supporting the
rollout
the development of the 5g radia access
network
which would in itself draw down more of
the backhoe the fiber rollout
that then brings fiber and 5g into rural
areas in many cases
mountainous regions etc which otherwise
would not get 5g for some time
so this has been the subject already of
several
programs pilots funded under our 5g
public private partnership our research
program under the previous
european union research that is now
being mirrored
in our new horizon europe planning under
the new joint undertaking but more
importantly
we now have this fund called the
connecting europe facility
which will be devoted once one part of
it of course
uh under under uh seth broadband will be
devoted to the corridors
where groups of member states come
together
and better from the pilots we've already
run
these cross-border corridor systems
so you will have end-to-end real 5g
standalone 5g
operating on these routes and then the
ability
at a lower cost to take spur lines if
you like off
into the regions that are passed through
in order to ensure the acceleration of
the rollout so it has a multiplier
effect
with a relatively small amount of
european taxpayers money
associated with what businesses are
prepared to put in and of course local
government
we then have a significant investment
that accelerates 5g
great um also well if um do you have
anything to add from the ericsson
point of view yeah yeah very very
briefly i concur with with pierce here
and erickson
is very much involved in in one of these
corridors
in in between the baltic nations uh
estonia latvia and lithuania
and we also identify and of course as
does the transport and logistics
companies
the the potential of 5g and and when we
talk to companies like like uh
volvo group for example i mean they they
are they they are also
sharing our frustration that that 5g is
not happening
uh fast enough in europe and and
also emphasizing what peers said here
that this takes for
for for a harmonized approach
cooperative approach
between the member states of the
european union that is fundamental to
this i mean we
we can't have initiatives that that's
that's
stop at the national borders here we
need to have the european perspective
in everything we do in this space
um again can i go ahead
no no no go ahead there's one other very
important issue
which i really should have mentioned
which of course another of the
technology policies that we're pursuing
where we feel that europe will be
in the lead is in relation to connected
and autonomous mobility
where uh with the use of 5g and other
technologies
we will be able to accelerate the
development of
driver support autonomous mobility
and much more intelligent and safe and
also environmentally friendly transport
particularly in the
goods transport industry where the
lorries will be able to
work operate much more efficiently and
safely so that is actually
very good for the environment very good
for business and also very good for
safety
and that will also be the use case to
allow europe to develop
these cam technologies as we call them
uh in competition with other regions of
the world so sorry for breaking in again
but that's very important
absolutely no worries that's what panel
discussions are for
i would now turn to you michelle and and
ask a question we brought it out here a
couple of sectors what
5g is successful for um and like
mobility but there is plenty of other
sectors as well that we can use this
vast connection
um what do you think what are the
sectors that eu would take a leader
position of using a 5g connection
thank you very much annette uh well
um from a regulator perspective it's
it's
it's not a real easy question to to to
answer
it is more economical
related than related to the regulation
of the regulatory uh coming from
stemming from the regulatory framework
so
what we try to do is providing
a framework that based on a
non-discriminatory approach for all
types
of of users including an industry
of course which is is the main focus of
uh
of 5g and so without real
uh differentiating between sectors
of types of uh of industries
and so it's it's not really up to to us
to
to try to to help more one type of uh
sector than than another and to to pick
and choose
uh winners in in this in this area
let's uh we'll see and um please
also mentioned is that there is a lot of
trials across
europe and we also uh held a
stakeholder workshop
a few mo a few weeks ago and it was
really
interesting to hear from our vertical
actors
what they are going to do and what they
are still implementing
from different sectors in the industry
like shipyards of
automotive um refers to
but not really easy for for us
as uh regulators to to see which type of
sector will be the leading one in europe
anyone else want to want to add like
which sectors uh
you should take the leading welder
here's well i can just uh uh jump in and
as
as we saw in our study we think that
that smart manufacturing i mean europe
is uh
one of the world leading regions when it
comes to manufacturing
and and uh we have then a great
potential
uh to digitize manufacturing uh to have
smart manufacturing
i think that there's a huge potential
but also as we saw in our studies
in agriculture i mean smart agriculture
is also an area where i think
we can increase european competitiveness
with the application of 5g
great uh moving on to the next question
here both private and public financing
can be sometimes very difficult to
access for the smes which have brought
it up here
a couple of times for them to develop 5g
applications and business models as well
the eu and member states funding remains
clearly crucial
when it comes to usmes from very early
stages
already however there is no dedicated
society focused programs available
at the eu level as smes uh are
starting to play more essential role in
a global ecosystem
do you think it should be vital for the
european uh union to take further
actions to try fire to innovation
and how could europe support 5g related
smes i would turn this question to
pierce
well thank you yes the the role but also
the potential
of european smes is very significant
so um we have had and do still and will
continue to fund
innovation in general for for smes and
startups
but specifically on 5g which is your
question which i which
i think is totally justified the first
thing is to say that
we are changing our research model we've
had a very successful public private
partnership focusing on research
and innovation we're now moving to a
model which is called a joint
undertaking
it will do research in 5g beyond 5g and
maybe even start some work on what will
be 6g
but it is also an instrument to work on
deployment
on innovation on the development of
these use cases
and on developing ecosystems
specifically to allow
smes uh to to to participate and to
benefit
so that's that's one key area uh where
in
looking at in providing financing for
the testing
of of ideas from smes we actually give
them the opportunity to receive
support of course the main
investment funds of the european union
not just the rrf
which is very big but it wants off but
also eu
invest and some of the other funds will
increasingly be looking at digital as
you know for example the rrf funds 20
of those funds must go on digital
projects
and we expect even more in relation to
eu invest etc
and that will focus on what is europe's
natural powerhouse and
ulf will have no problem i know in
recognizing this we have some
major global leaders here in europe
who are at the forefront of our drive
with regard to 5g and other
communications technologies and networks
and in their slipstream but also now
maybe even cutting across
them are startups disruptive smes
whom we need for the business ecosystem
if europe is to thrive so that is a real
focus of the joint undertaking
and it will also be a focus of our
digital europe program where we are
seeking to roll out
a number of digital technologies uh
talking about artificial intelligence
hpc but now specifically
in cloud and in 5g we will see
smaller companies for example working on
on telco
edge provision and in providing
innovative technologies and services
with european funding we hope and expect
that the member states will match that
funding
so that we do now create a real
innovative
entrepreneurial environment for smes to
grow
um there is also the question that i
would last actually like to ask from
all of our panelists here so we we also
talk about very often
um the awareness of iot and channel like
in public
do you think that um should the european
union focus more on improving the
understanding
and awareness of 5g of investors too and
how has these
been addressed uh these days uh maybe
mikhail over to you um do you think that
we should be focusing more on raising
the awareness and especially
also the investors but of course also
the public awareness of 5t connection
thank you very much and this is a very
interesting question of course
and as you probably know for years
um we have here that um
this sector is over regulated
and uh the good news it's not the case
anymore and this is the background of
the european electronic communications
code
with an overarching um objective
towards um efficient uh investment so
this is a
a very um investment friendly
environment complemented by um the beric
guidelines to ensure the consistent and
harmonized implementation
over uh europe second element um
if you compare the situation with the
situation many years ago
there's less less markets it needs to be
regulated so we are going a little by
little
towards the uh application of general uh
competition
low in the in this in this sector uh as
well
moreover um in in this framework
you have also uh some very important
tools
to uh incentivize investments such as
uh co-investment schemes on this
there is a lot of work to to to do
and but there are already some
co-investments agreements with different
forms just to
lower the costs um peers referred
also more specifically regarding 5g
the possibility to uh share
infrastructure and
infrastructure sharing is something we
really
support with uh barrack we adopted two
years ago
a common position on that where we
described different parameters
and and so this is uh an important tool
as well to lower the cost and and
improve the
the coverage and as i have already
mentioned
the the brilliant cost reduction
directive we also
once reviewed played a role to
facilitate
the rollout and the deployment of 5g
and so to lower the cost which is also
good news for
the the investor to be my my answer so
far
thank you um now also um very short
answers from uh from both piers and an
old festival
um how how does erickson and how does
the european commission address these uh
raising awareness of
fighting here so i think uh
yeah i think globesick is doing a
fantastic job by just
organizing this event so i think
uh awareness is is there but but i think
we just need to continue to to stress
how important 5g is for for for
competitiveness
and and and of europe
uh it's a fundamental innovation
platform for
all for all our societies and all our
businesses
and i think it's great that the rrf
is identifying 20 for ict investments
but as i said uh and then of course it's
up to the member states to continue to
drive that and
make use of it in there in the way that
has been
been decided but also to understand that
that 5g will also play a role
for for the green uh transformation
uh because it's it's not only a creating
efficiencies and productivity increases
but it also helps us take us to
to a more sustainable future and
sustainable businesses
so thank you thank you and i i would
just have to cut you off from here uh
and pierce uh in two sentences uh how we
how should we raise the awareness of
five t
two sentences only uh
there won't be a sort of a public
publicity campaign because that's not
what it's about
we will continue to work with different
business sectors to help
them to actually work out the use cases
and show
how business can actually find that on
the technology so 5g
applications in the in the sectors are
the way to convince them
and their investors that it's the way
forward
thank you and i would like to thank
everyone especially people here in the
room thank you for joining me this
uh this morning and thank you for all
the panelists of course uh
who shared their experience in this
field and i do hope that
europe is taking a leading role soon
when it comes to 5g connections and i
hope the panel was interesting also
to all of our listeners that joined us
virtually we hope to see you next time
here
in practice lava just for some
information as well
that refreshments are downstairs and the
next session
will begin here in the same room at 10
past
11 so i would like to thank you for my
side and wishing you a very very
pleasant stay
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