well hello hello
this is ryan here again with the cactus
con crew and i am here
with our keynote speaker for the day eva
galperin thank you so much
for your talk today it's my pleasure
so uh just first off before we even get
into the q a i just
once again want to thank you and the eff
for joining
alongside us we've been really you know
kind of
dying to have participation from the eff
for a couple years now and
the fact that we have you both a couple
of you in our midst
is is just awesome so once again thank
you
and number of questions from
the chat is there anything that you'd
like to bring up or to mention yourself
before we get into that anything you
want to throw out there or
i figured i would just start with
thanking everyone uh
you guys have done such a wonderful job
of organizing this con and
it's been oh so long since i've been to
a physical
hacker convention that it's really nice
to be in
in this discord room that feels very
much uh
like the hacker cons of old
that's that makes us feel really good to
hear that so awesome
thank you so i'm going to go ahead and
just jump into some questions here we've
got around 11 minutes
our next talk starts so let's get to it
uh one of the questions and i think i'm
making the decision here and
read off all these discord names so
rather i think i'm just going to bust
out with a question
first question if relevant thoughts on
clearview ai
current issues in canada regard the mass
collection of people's biometric data
through facial recognition does the eff
help deal with those kinds of situations
well uh to begin with there there is
currently a lawsuit against
against clearview ai and i in the united
states that i'm fairly certain that
we're doing an amicus on
uh the the defense is
uh that they're mounting is essentially
that uh
scraping all of facebook in order to uh
in order to pull everyone's pictures and
then putting them in a giant biometric
database
is in fact free speech and um
as much as eff loves free speech and boy
are we some like crazy free speech
maximalists
uh no uh if you want to see uh
efforts get really mad show them an
issue where free speech
goes up against privacy and you will see
them bear their fangs
i am keeping up less with the situation
in canada but eff does have an
international team that that looks at
canadian issues specifically and is more
familiar with canadian law than i am
awesome thank you very much appreciate
that
next question for you is the eff going
to open back up the internships program
well uh we actually do have interns uh
the eff
has uh interns for uh for the summer
uh from law schools so if you're
thinking about
about going to law school we take you
know everything from one else to three
else
i and those internships are currently
remote because
our office is also remote uh the eff
office is closed so that we don't give
everyone
uh and each other the plague i and i
expect that it will
remain closed for a while uh we also
have some volunteer opportunities
uh eff uh specifically my team
uh threat lab works uh it has worked
with
it with teams of students at the
university of nevada at reno
uh in order to work on um our
sort of atlas of surveillance project uh
one of my colleagues is also
a professor at the university of nevada
at reno and has just just moved there
we take volunteers uh you know
at the sort of student level uh fairly
often as long as we have specific
projects
that that they're interested in working
on
and also we have a technical mailing
list we have a mailing list that you can
get onto if you email
info eff.org which is called
um cooperating technologists
and that is where eff sends messages
when we need somebody with a specific
technical skill
to to work on a specific project and
we're looking for volunteers
that's awesome thank you for that little
tidbit we'll drop that in the chat
eff.org cooperating technologists
cool next question for you where do you
draw the line
between parental control software i know
where this is going i have a
nine-year-old daughter
spying on your kids versus using similar
tools to watch
spouse and or family i'm especially
curious to where you draw that line with
family members with dementia
or destructive addictive behavior
well i as it happens i have given this
some thought
um as far as i'm concerned it doesn't
matter who you're spying on
i it does not matter whether you are
tracking the behavior
of uh of a child or you're attracting
the behavior of
of your spouse or even a parent with
dementia
what matters is whether or not you are
tricking them into thinking that they're
not being spied on
that is really the the defining element
of stalker wear
if you have to fool your kids into
thinking that they're not being
that you're not watching them in order
to catch them doing
something you might want to consider
doing some parenting
likewise if you feel like you have to do
this with your spouse
you might want to consider you know a
divorce
because at this point you already know
what you're going to find
and if you don't know what you're going
to find and you're doing this in order
to
uh in order to control your partner
you're being an abuser
and that sort of stuff is really not
okay
so i think that that is extremely
relevant to many of us
who are here right now i'm a blue teamer
through and through hardcore
and the home lab right the the quote
unquote home lab whether it's an actual
server rack or just a
you know a box for a pf sense whatever
is a very common thing that we discuss
and that we have in our environments
many of us have them for that matter
during the interview process at
last job my last job and current job now
one of the things we do is we
do you have a home lab now there's a
connotation to that
are you spying on your whole family are
you doing ssl decryption too are you
seeing
all the stuff they do um so you know
where i to
to have mine enabled i actually don't
have one enabled first
kind of reasons because of that that's
something you definitely need
to think about you know we have a
nine-year-old daughter but i also have a
not nine-year-old wife
well that'd be weird if i had a
nine-year-old sorry
so my wife if i'm looking at you know
our daughter's stuff
would i see her stuff and and you know
like how does that how does that
translate
so that's that's a really good really
good topic to kind of mull over i like
that
thank you for that feedback the problem
uh i must have missed the first part of
this question so i'm going to go back to
it here
just give me one moment right here
scrolling up
and
i'm gonna move on and come back to that
one uh so the question there
then is
could you provide some example about the
latin america region
specifically venezuela
well uh i will start with the general
latin american region uh generally we
have a
uh we have a director uh for
our our latin american work her name is
katissa rodriguez
uh she's originally from peru um
katitsa kicks my ass in the sense that
uh
i have personally taken part in the
overthrow of zero governments
uh and uh and she was there for the
for the overthrow of the authoritarian
government in uh in peru
so that's pretty cool uh we have we have
other people who are
who have lived in brazil mostly
uh doing doing work for us in the latin
american region
and threat lab is taking part in
a project in which we are sending foia
requests
to a bunch of latin american governments
i mean not actual foia requests because
foia is
an american law but essentially we are
testing out their versions of foia
to see whether or not they even work
because if they do oh man we've got some
uh
we have questions that we will be asking
and we definitely have some stuff that
we want to map out in the
in the area of you know privacy and
surveillance
throughout latin america venezuela is
sort of a different issue um
often the latin american countries that
eff does the most work in uh are divided
up into
two categories one is uh
countries where the where the government
is uh very actively spying on dissidents
and journalists and
sort of people who speak truth to power
and this can be anything from
venezuela to say the government of
mexico
uh the mexican the mexican government is
actually a wide and sprawling thing and
then there's the whole question of what
part of the mexican government is spying
on you
uh and it matters but uh
there have definitely been uh people in
the mexican government who have used
spyware um not commercially available
spyware but spyware that they have
mostly purchased from the manifold group
uh to spy on their political opponents
we have not seen that in venezuela
um i would be super interested in seeing
some venezuelan government malware
and if anybody has any just send it
directly to me
like not be a virus total just fire it
right on over
it'll be fine awesome thank you very
very much due to time we need to wrap up
there are some additional questions
for you i also want to mention to folks
playing along that we had a giveaway
winner and the giveaway winner receives
a towel you can go ahead and choose
exactly what you'd like that goes to
root addict and i actually give away one
instead of two tiles so i'm going to
give away another towel along with our
next
giveaway which is coming up right now
eva thank you so so much
and our 11 o'clock talk is just about to
start so
hey again again thank you thank you for
being here with us
always know where your towel is