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well hello hello

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this is ryan here again with the cactus

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con crew and i am here

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with our keynote speaker for the day eva

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galperin thank you so much

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for your talk today it's my pleasure

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so uh just first off before we even get

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into the q a i just

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once again want to thank you and the eff

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for joining

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alongside us we've been really you know

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kind of

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dying to have participation from the eff

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for a couple years now and

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the fact that we have you both a couple

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of you in our midst

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is is just awesome so once again thank

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and number of questions from

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the chat is there anything that you'd

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like to bring up or to mention yourself

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before we get into that anything you

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want to throw out there or

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i figured i would just start with

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thanking everyone uh

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you guys have done such a wonderful job

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of organizing this con and

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it's been oh so long since i've been to

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a physical

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hacker convention that it's really nice

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to be in

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in this discord room that feels very

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much uh

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like the hacker cons of old

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that's that makes us feel really good to

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hear that so awesome

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thank you so i'm going to go ahead and

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just jump into some questions here we've

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got around 11 minutes

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our next talk starts so let's get to it

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uh one of the questions and i think i'm

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making the decision here and

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read off all these discord names so

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rather i think i'm just going to bust

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out with a question

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first question if relevant thoughts on

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clearview ai

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current issues in canada regard the mass

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collection of people's biometric data

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through facial recognition does the eff

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help deal with those kinds of situations

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well uh to begin with there there is

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currently a lawsuit against

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against clearview ai and i in the united

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states that i'm fairly certain that

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we're doing an amicus on

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uh the the defense is

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uh that they're mounting is essentially

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that uh

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scraping all of facebook in order to uh

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in order to pull everyone's pictures and

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then putting them in a giant biometric

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database

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is in fact free speech and um

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as much as eff loves free speech and boy

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are we some like crazy free speech

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maximalists

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uh no uh if you want to see uh

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efforts get really mad show them an

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issue where free speech

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goes up against privacy and you will see

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i am keeping up less with the situation

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in canada but eff does have an

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international team that that looks at

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canadian issues specifically and is more

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familiar with canadian law than i am

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awesome thank you very much appreciate

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next question for you is the eff going

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to open back up the internships program

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well uh we actually do have interns uh

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the eff

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has uh interns for uh for the summer

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about going to law school we take you

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know everything from one else to three

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our office is also remote uh the eff

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office is closed so that we don't give

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remain closed for a while uh we also

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sort of atlas of surveillance project uh

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list we have a mailing list that you can

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and that is where eff sends messages

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to to work on a specific project and

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that's awesome thank you for that little

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tidbit we'll drop that in the chat

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eff.org cooperating technologists

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between parental control software i know

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spying on your kids versus using similar

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um as far as i'm concerned it doesn't

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matter who you're spying on

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i it does not matter whether you are

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of uh of a child or you're attracting

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of your spouse or even a parent with

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that is really the the defining element

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of stalker wear

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if you have to fool your kids into

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thinking that they're not being

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that you're not watching them in order

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to catch them doing

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relevant to many of us

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who are here right now i'm a blue teamer

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server rack or just a

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are you spying on your whole family are

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all the stuff they do um so you know

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would i see her stuff and and you know

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like how does that how does that

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uh i must have missed the first part of

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this question so i'm going to go back to

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just give me one moment right here

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overthrow of zero governments

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for the overthrow of the authoritarian

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a project in which we are sending foia

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to see whether or not they even work

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in the area of you know privacy and

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eff does the most work in uh are divided

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countries where the where the government

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venezuela to say the government of

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then there's the whole question of what

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some venezuelan government malware

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and if anybody has any just send it

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directly to me

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like not be a virus total just fire it

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right on over

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it'll be fine awesome thank you very

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very much due to time we need to wrap up

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there are some additional questions

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for you i also want to mention to folks

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playing along that we had a giveaway

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winner and the giveaway winner receives

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a towel you can go ahead and choose

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exactly what you'd like that goes to

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root addict and i actually give away one

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instead of two tiles so i'm going to

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give away another towel along with our

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next

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giveaway which is coming up right now

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eva thank you so so much

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and our 11 o'clock talk is just about to

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start so

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hey again again thank you thank you for

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being here with us

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always know where your towel is